Denied NEW SCP TO ADD

[xFisch68x]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:

[It will add a new SCP (662 and 662-1) that needs an actor in the Object Containment Zone, so that it can hopefully be one that is more interesting than the current objects and more accessible for lower leveled researchers ]

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
[not to my knowledge]

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[ It would give another option for lower leveled researchers such as Jrs and Normal researchers that isnt just a painting or candy bowl as those can become boring and repetitive, but putting an actor inside of the object containment zone will not only 1, have an actor in every zone (Objects, Light, and Heavy) but will also have the chance to make lower leaved researchers more interested in the career option of researching and wishing to continue this without the boring repetitive other research opportunities such as doing the candy bowl 20 times for XP, instead there will be good roleplay opportunities that even these lower leveled researchers can become engaged and involved in as I have noticed that many lower leveled researchers are left out of Rp research situations from usually the reason of not having clearance or knowing where it is, but this solves both of those issues as the object containment zone is widely known where it is and can be accessed by any researcher,
FURTHERMORE
if 662-1 is able to breach, he could get objects for the other SCPs (for example: getting a hacking tool for 035 or higher leveled keycards) to be a good valuable support non combative team member and this will be balanced from 662-1 only having a weak weapon (such as maybe a broken bottle, a small knife, or maybe even a wooden stick), so he is is 99% a support member that is valuable and needs to be protected by his SCP teammates to be able to keep supporting them
THOUGH, of course dont let him be able to get any objects as even in the Lore he isnt able to retrieve some objects. So have his limit on things like getting keycards be Clearance Level 3, and guns he can fetch of course dont let him fetch Freedoms but maybe something more like a machine gun he would be able to get, and so on and so forth so its not OP
(if you have other suggestions on how to make 662-1 even more balanced than he would already be, please put it in the replies )


Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[ I literally do not see a negative here, imma be honest. The researchers benefit, the dclass benefit from a more interesting SCP to test with than the 3d glasses 30 times in a row, be interesting for guards that watch, ect ]

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[ this should 100% be added, it would bring more roleplay opportunities' to lower leveled researchers an eliminate the repetitiveness' of doing research as a lower leveled researcher interacting with the same objects that wont change such as the painting or candy bowl 700 times. it can also get the lower leveled researchers to become more interested and invested into wanting to keep working and being a researcher and even try to do roleplays/interviews with 662-1 as he is able to speak and converse with people. Furthermore it will add a good support SCP for breaches



TLDR: research as lower level boring and little to no actual RP, this add both, also good Support SCP for breaches

SCP-662 Wiki Source: https://scp.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-662
Steam workshop model used in images: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=906408930

 

["Fang"]

+Support

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

-support
Mr Deeds, activate the Alpha Warhead

 

[Shaunpai]

+Support

This is really well made, but please add a flair

 

[Shaunpai]

"Mr. Deeds, could you tell me all of the CL4 and CL5 information; Afterwards go to the CI base, murderise all of the CI, then go to GOC base, murderise all of them, bring back all of the GOC & CI keycards - Then following that, systematically murder all civilians on surface, as well as every single person on the site while also giving every keycard you come across to D-Class and fighting the ongoing containment breach at the same time, including yourself at this point, before dropping 15,532 008 documents & spores on surface, finally followed up by giving Surface & Foundation Chefs spontaneous tours of FL3 that end with a 360 detonate-the-Alpha-warhead?"

No shot in hell this would be allowed for low-level Researchers to use.

And to top it all off, you got the number wrong, amazing. This is the pinnacle of suggestions. I couldn't have achieved anything better if I tried.

Major -Support

You do know Mr. Deeds has a limit on what he can do, right? Have you read his entry recently?

 

["Businessman"]

Is it FailRP for mr deeds to reject me the m9k_davy_crockett.

 

[Emilia Foddg]

You do know Mr. Deeds has a limit on what he can do, right? Have you read his entry recently?

Yes. I believe you have chosen the wrong person whomst've bluff to call, as I personally am fairly knowledgeable on how anomalously-obedient SCPs would work in a given setting.

Most reasonable requests given to Mr. Deeds will result in satisfaction. However, there are limits to what he can do. He is unable to produce very complex items such as sports cars, luxury homes, or personal jets. If he is allowed to leave line of sight and return, he is able to produce smaller, less complex items such as a ham sandwich, a glass of iced tea, or even more luxurious items like caviar or a brick of gold. A list of notable items the butler has thus far been able to provide to those who ring the bell may be found in addendum 662-A1.

Mr. Deeds will also perform menial tasks, such as washing vehicles, preparing food, and cleaning bathrooms. If a request is deemed unreasonable or impossible by the butler, he will kindly tell the ringer so, and offer an alternative if one may be had.

I have also read a lot of cross-reference material involving Mr. Deeds as well, and it's very wishy-washy as to what he is and isn't able to do (There is significant consistency, especially with his ability to just go somewhere out of sight and transport himself somewhere else), but:

• 'All of the CL4 & CL5 information' - CL4 information probably very doable for him, but CL5 even less so. Probably would be the point of failure there.
  
  
• On the surface 'go to GOC & CI bases' is very possible because of his transportation capability, but 'murderise all of the CI & GOC' probably less doable because of 'all the CI/GOC being too well-guarded (esp. if this were to include the highest ranks of both, however 5000 shows that Mr. Deeds could feasibly assassinate some well-guarded individuals if he were appropriately equipped and/or there may be some appropriate opening/weakness for him to exploit),' however the somewhat arbitrary and 'less concrete' (see 2599 crosstest) nature of the request could reasonably facilitate a mini MRDM sesh for both being satisfactory. Mr. Deeds definitely wouldn't be able to last in any kind of sustained engagement with either, but possesses enough knowledge, skill and capability to kill a significant handful CI & GOC in a sort of mini-raid, if requested.
  
  
• 'Bring back all of the GOC & CI keycards' - Going by the logic I described above, this would probably be directly refused in favour of something like 'all the keycards off the dead CI & GOC,' fixable with simple revision.
  
  
• 'Systematically murder all civilians on surface' - See above.
  
  
• '[...] every single person on the site' - Unreasonable as with above, but again, easily remedied by wording the request correctly.
  
  
• 'While also giving every keycard you come across to D-Class' - Doable.
  
  
• 'Fighting the ongoing containment breach at the same time, including yourself at this point' - Interestingly, plausible. So long as the request does not either ask for or strongly allude to any terminations of any difficulty, all he'd have to do is contribute to fulfil the condition.
  
  
• 'Before dropping 15,532 008 documents & spores on surface' - If he had a way to get access to the document, he could print it. At face value, that's doable (Obviously ignoring the fact that the server would absolutely not let you print off that many docs) - But the spores, definitely not.
  
  
• 'Finally followed up by giving Surface & Foundation Chefs spontaneous tours of FL3' - He can't teleport them unless he uses another SCP or w/e to do so, but he can just attempt to walk them there. This of course is stopped the moment he's killed. So while possible, definitely not feasible and may be rejected on those grounds.
  
  
• '[...] that end with a 360 detonate-the-Alpha-warhead' - This self-terminates ala being killed as above, since Mr. Deeds can't survive a nuclear explosion. However, he wouldn't even be able to get to that stage by virtue of needing to access a biometric CL5 keypad.

Although this is just overt nitpicking. My - hopefully very obvious - point with what I said was that if something like Mr. Deeds was on the server and available for low-clearance Researchers to use, it could reasonably most certainly be abused for FailRP & proxy (M)RDM if not handled right, and while cool in theory, in practice would serve to largely just be a headache for all involved.

 

[Shaunpai]

Yes. I believe you have chosen the wrong person whomst've bluff to call, as I personally am fairly knowledgeable on how anomalously-obedient SCPs would work in a given setting.

I have also read a lot of cross-reference material involving Mr. Deeds as well, and it's very wishy-washy as to what he is and isn't able to do (There is significant consistency, especially with his ability to just go somewhere out of sight and transport himself somewhere else), but:

• 'All of the CL4 & CL5 information' - CL4 information probably very doable for him, but CL5 even less so. Probably would be the point of failure there.
  
  
• On the surface 'go to GOC & CI bases' is very possible because of his transportation capability, but 'murderise all of the CI & GOC' probably less doable because of 'all the CI/GOC being too well-guarded (esp. if this were to include the highest ranks of both, however 5000 shows that Mr. Deeds could feasibly assassinate some well-guarded individuals if he were appropriately equipped and/or there may be some appropriate opening/weakness for him to exploit),' however the somewhat arbitrary and 'less concrete' (see 2599 crosstest) nature of the request could reasonably facilitate a mini MRDM sesh for both being satisfactory. Mr. Deeds definitely wouldn't be able to last in any kind of sustained engagement with either, but possesses enough knowledge, skill and capability to kill a significant handful CI & GOC in a sort of mini-raid, if requested.
  
  
• 'Bring back all of the GOC & CI keycards' - Going by the logic I described above, this would probably be directly refused in favour of something like 'all the keycards off the dead CI & GOC,' fixable with simple revision.
  
  
• 'Systematically murder all civilians on surface' - See above.
  
  
• '[...] every single person on the site' - Unreasonable as with above, but again, easily remedied by wording the request correctly.
  
  
• 'While also giving every keycard you come across to D-Class' - Doable.
  
  
• 'Fighting the ongoing containment breach at the same time, including yourself at this point' - Interestingly, plausible. So long as the request does not either ask for or strongly allude to any terminations of any difficulty, all he'd have to do is contribute to fulfil the condition.
  
  
• 'Before dropping 15,532 008 documents & spores on surface' - If he had a way to get access to the document, he could print it. At face value, that's doable (Obviously ignoring the fact that the server would absolutely not let you print off that many docs) - But the spores, definitely not.
  
  
• 'Finally followed up by giving Surface & Foundation Chefs spontaneous tours of FL3' - He can't teleport them unless he uses another SCP or w/e to do so, but he can just attempt to walk them there. This of course is stopped the moment he's killed. So while possible, definitely not feasible and may be rejected on those grounds.
  
  
• '[...] that end with a 360 detonate-the-Alpha-warhead' - This self-terminates ala being killed as above, since Mr. Deeds can't survive a nuclear explosion. However, he wouldn't even be able to get to that stage by virtue of needing to access a biometric CL5 keypad.

Although this is just overt nitpicking. My - hopefully very obvious - point with what I said was that if something like Mr. Deeds was on the server and available for low-clearance Researchers to use, it could reasonably most certainly be abused for FailRP & proxy (M)RDM if not handled right, and while cool in theory, in practice would serve to largely just be a headache for all involved.

Good points

However, the remedy is to lock him behind VIP/Whitelist. Make it so that only people who WILL roleplay as Mr. Deeds carry out his capabilities. I don't see the reason of refusing an SCP simply because it CAN cause problems, that kind of reply holds back creativity.

 

[Harlow Horizont Seven]

Oh this was suggested MULTIPLE times. Always denied. And I doubt this would be a diffeeence. Too many negatives my man.

 

[Harvey Bridger]

It is a better concept for a GM event and would go terribly in my opinion as an actual playable SCP.

 

[Smity_Boi]

+Support

 

[Weebe San]

-Support to being able to breach
but
+Support to being added.

This was an SCP on a previous SCP community I played on years ago and it was a very fun SCP to play as. Always someone playing as it.

The way this worked in that community is you'd fly around until someone rings the bell. They'd become highlighted on your screen and you'd be able to fly up to them and uncloak. It was always recommended to uncloak behind a wall or something so no one would physically see you uncloak. You'd then be able to walk behind a wall again after they deliver their request and cloak before flying somewhere to get something for them. Would definitely need to be a VIP AND a whitelisted SCP.

+Support on Recker's suggestion of it being a whitelisted SCP.

 

[Holland]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @xFisch68x

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

We believe that this SCP isn't needed and we are currently not looking into adding new non-planned SCPs, Similar suggestions have been denied as well

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​