Denied Role Consolidation

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What this suggestion adds:
Merges several jobs with similar/identical roles, loadouts, and playermodels (if you're concerned about wasted assets):

1. Internal Security Agent (keep) + Internal Security Operative (remove)
Aside from the difference of these roles being level/Keter VIP-locked and the SMG primaries, these jobs serve the same purpose. They could be consolidated into one job by checking if the player holds Keter-VIP OR meets the level requirements. Agent slots can be increased accordingly

2. External Affairs Agent (keep) + External Affairs Operative (remove)
See above.

3. UNGOC - R&D (keep) + UNGOC - Chemist (remove)
The R&D and chemist roles have the same clearance level and, to my knowledge, fridge permissions, with the chemist spawning with a keycard, clipboard, personnel tablet, and binoculars on spawn. Allow UNGOC R&D to spawn chemistry items; unlikely people will go through joining an entire regiment just to use beakers.

4. CI - R&D (keep) + CI - Chemist (remove)
See above.

5. CI - Alpha (keep) + CI - Technical Expert (remove)
A role that doesn't spawn with weapons and can't otherwise involve themselves in raids, the mainstay of the CI regiment. Give Alpha the Technician Tool, Mop, and Cleaning Supplies Placer.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No.

Possible Positives of the suggestion:
  1. Easy cuts (for now) to reduce role bloat
  2. Neutral changes in terms of combat balance

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
  1. Time to code/configure
  2. Too many items on one job may seem unfair (look at some GOC roles' loadouts, though)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted?:
Cutting extraneous roles reduces the amount of configurations required when changing roles in the future, while tackling job bloat by merging similar jobs into one. While keeping extra job slots may not have a performative impact on the server, it can jumpstart discussions on how best to approach merging other jobs without majorly disrupting gameplay.
 
Although not direct - Making Chemist non-VIP has been denied before here, and this suggestion basically aims to do that.
If that remains to be, locking each respective R&D role behind VIP is a resolution. That suggestion also seems to primarily target the Foundation pharmacist and research chemist roles, as CI and GOC members usually have large stores of beakers at their disposal. I just don't see a significant portion of revenue - that is, people being pushed to purchase VIP - in keeping these regimental chemists paywalled.
 
I really don't want CI or GOC R&D jobs behind paywalls, they are our only jobs that allow us to sample scps (actually not sure about the GOC side of that but thats the case for CI) + we have subregs that give "priorities" for the R&D job so doing that for a vip job would be fucked
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Paywalling the jobs is my lesser preferred option anyway. As I've said, I don't think many people buy Thaumiel VIP solely because it allows them chemist access, it's just a neat perk that can incentivize purchasing VIP for the other benefits as well.
 

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Suggestion Denied

Hi @grunger

Thankyou for taking the time to make a suggestion, however these roles will not be consolidated.

Especially in instance of Operative / Agents, Operatives are a VIP class which due to the fact its a paid entry into a department, we made them lower ranked than the Agents as in the rank structure it is Operative > Agent.

The rest will not be consolidated either as it holds little need for further consolidation and does not provide any benefits outside of extra redundant content for people to download if removed.

These roles have a place for those who want to change things up and play as differing role.

In relation to R&D / Chemists, we will not be consolidating these, as the R&D is a nonvip science role, specialising in SCP sciences, and the chemist is the chemical role, if we consolidated this, we would then be locking that down behind VIP too, as we do need incentives for people to pay for the donation packages.

Kind Regards
Yeke
 
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