Why are people so afraid of temporary "RP" consequences?

[Advil Smith]

+support glory to the cadets

 

[Evil]

Lets see how long this post will be up before it gets locked

It shouldn't be locked unless an NL gets offended by it and pulls the 1942 gameplay

 

[DaveDogs]

I remember saying something awhile ago, reminded me of this, it was like " Is this server about Roleplaying, or Winning, then passing it off as Roleplay?" and this was awhile ago.

This is a game and PvP at its centre. A majority of the server is combative because it is just better than being non-combative. There's nothing special about a non-combative in terms of RP.
If I'm a CM, I can go RP and shoot shit when I cannot due to a C1 or C5
As a Doctor, I can go RP. What during a C1 or C5? Nothing really, just hide from the SCP's. This would be scary, dying and all, but people don't value their lives. At that point, why not fight the SCP's!

Anywho, that's why I feel the server is really uh "Combat Directed", because it's just better. And when you're conditioned to shoot bad guys and "Win" from it, you expect that from the RP too. The updates/features don't help much either, (Looking at you chem system) and especially CI. I feel like out of everything, they need changed or reworked to actually encourage RP, because currently they don't. Sometimes DC's do something cool, but MR's? Rarely.

From what I see, people aren't demoted, their character gets PKed, and replaced by someone else in RP, still being played by you.
With how ranks/applications are in the server, that would be ridiculous. But, I find that people take RP Consequences too close to heart, and that's why people don't like it (which has already been stated like 120 times in this thread).

anyways remove A1, cure RP, get drunk, MRDM dclass
by e

Real asf take from the forums goblin

 

[Remmy]

I like roleplay

 

[Charles "Ze" Whitmee]

Another key element is a lack of genuine trust and support given to Junior Personnel

This I can agree to, I went through hell arguing with people when creating policy back as SC because I wanted to grant CL3's more "power".
I was met with claims that'd it only cause minges and ruin Roleplay.

There is a lack of trust towards anyone that's not CL4 by some members.

My personal solution is adjusting how positions are earned/held and making more roleplay involved in that rather then levels but alas.

 

[nightshadow]

some people have a lot to lose and so that restricts what they can do. More is less. Set yourself free and make your own path. Don’t waste time trying to get ranks. your subordinates wield more power than you do.

If you have nothing to lose you have everything to gain, yeah?

Play as a low rank, grind money with some friends, and cook chems. Take it easy and don’t feel pressured to get a “GMOD desk job”. Just be hobo’s like me and my friends are.

 

[Rushi]

Some people tend to take the server way too seriously and to the heart, if things dont go their way they will become upset and call for staff, rather than just go with the situation and see where it goes. Theres too much of a win mentality that I hope we will be able to reduce slowly.

I've also been of the opinion that sometimes the "minges" are a source of RP (ISD, etc) and shouldn't be immediately shut down and should instead try and make the most out of the situation.

This is my personal opinion.

 

[Guts]

There is a lack of trust towards anyone that's not CL4 by some members.

because cl3 is easily accessible by anyone

cl4 at least means that you'll have to have applied for the position, meaning people;

1. know who you are
2. know you plan on putting some effort into your position

 

[Elias 'Nova' Yamamara]

Some people tend to take the server way too seriously and to the heart, if things dont go their way they will become upset and call for staff, rather than just go with the situation and see where it goes. Theres too much of a win mentality that I hope we will be able to reduce slowly.

I've also been of the opinion that sometimes the "minges" are a source of RP (ISD, etc) and shouldn't immediately try and shut them down and try and make the most out of the situation.

This is my personal opinion.

THIS^^ When I train people I always remind them when giving a sentence that if they didn't do that crime you wouldn't have any RP. I always am as lenient as possible.

 

[Emilia Foddg]

Add the RPG-7 to Cadet loadout and let them use it in D-Block.

 

[Dale "Ratchet"]

It is annoying when you're trying to RP and murder someone and you get dragged into a sit right after

 

[Crowsey]

CN is a very grind-heavy server, with large amounts of time required to get those higher positions. It creates an (rather unhealthy in my opinion) attachment to that progress, and to include 'RP consequences' which could lead to said person losing all that progress is a scary prospect.

Most people also don't like to 'lose' or have RP consequences because there's really no incentive to do so. CN as a whole has shifted to a Casual Roleplay server where PvP takes precedence. It feels like as a whole, roleplay is on the backburner despite what others may say especially if you compare it to 2-3 years ago.

It's disappointing because honestly, the best SCP-RP experiences come when people embrace IC consequences as part of the fun, but not everyone is on board with that mindset. (I PK'd my E-11 CSG by role-playing drunk driving into a tree)

this ^ so true the grind never stops especially for regiments and high positions as you said which unfortunately leads to people in high positions either being friends who helped each other or people with A LOT of time on the game.

 

[Charles "Ze" Whitmee]

RP and murder someone and you get dragged into a sit right after

"uhm, I wasn't hostile, you had no reason to kill me"

 

[Average member podidski]

my man left a question of the life on this server and never came back (last seen 11 may 2025), i have a big respect for him.

 

[William "Doom" Collins]

There is a lack of trust towards anyone that's not CL4 by some members.

My personal solution is adjusting how positions are earned/held and making more roleplay involved in that rather then levels but alas.

You'd be suprised how often that happened in RSD when i last played them. At least as far as UK is concerned.

CL1s and 2s were essentially left to fend for themselves to get levels, run random tests (which often ended up resulting in them being unethical, or god forbid, breaking server rules, believe me ive seen this happen before). The only people who were actually included in anything RSD-related by Execs and DoRs were CL3s. CL1s and 2s are essentially treated like ghosts, while CL3s are treated like second-class citizens. If it wasnt for the fact i stopped doing tests on existing SCPs and went for something that i can create, i would probally still be out there doing everything on my own, and i wouldn't have become an exec in the first place, which also was a nightmare to achieve due to bias related to document grading, but id rather leave the discussion about bias on CN, whether its RSD, staff or some other job, for another day.

This is why i have been taking matters into my own hands, by bringing actual RP into CI. Yes, you heard me, CI - a group that almost exclusively does nothing but PVP. And you know what? It was a bumpy road, but with a little help from fellow CI, we brought it in, and were able to do it efficiently. CI aren't just about raiding afterall.