Denied CI Marksmen Gun change

[Niox]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Changes the CI Marksman's SMG from the Spectre M4 to the PP-19-01 VItyaz.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
To my understanding, no suggestion has been made to change the CI Marksman's SMG.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
>CI Marksman doesn't have to rely on a Perma Gun, as the Spectre M4 is ass.
>More equal balancing between CI & Nu-7/DEA

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
>CI Buff in an area it is potentially not needed.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Really, the CI Marksman's SMG as of current is horrendous. The spread and recoil on it is absurd, and the damage is quite minimal for its speed. Comparatively, the Nu-7 Marksman's COLT M4, although not a great gun, is better than the Spectre M4, and isn't completely useless. The aim of this suggestion isn't to give CI a gun better than Nu-7's, but just one to equalise the gap. Normally I would just suggest a buff to the gun, but CI Deep Cover themselves has the Spectre M4, and I feel as though they shouldn't have it buffed, as they should be relying on guns which they steal during their infiltrations of Foundation. (Johnson forced me to make this suggestion under gunpoint if anyone's wondering (someone please help me))

 

[James Kenraali]

+Support

 

[Welper]

It's the whole point of MM, it's not meant to have anywhere near a good secondary. So uhh
+/-

 

[Niox]

It's the whole point of MM, it's not meant to have anywhere near a good secondary. So uhh
+/-

As stated within the suggestion, the point of it isn't to give MM a gun that's good, it's just to give it a gun that isn't poo poo.

 

[Sule Goodman]

+ Support

I dunno shit bout CI loadouts or guns , but ill trust you on this

 

[Jimothy"Hamster"]

+ Support
spectre m4 is so shit

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

+Support

When ever I dc or go on marksman I get the specter m4 taken off of me so I don't accidentally swap to it

 

[Aphex]

Bring back the Skorpion…

 

[Jordie]

+ Support spectre m4 hate is real

 

[Emilia Foddg]

(Johnson forced me to make this suggestion under gunpoint if anyone's wondering (someone please help me)

I mean, if he was holding a Spectre M4, do you have anything to worry about? ...Actually you know what, Johnson's probably good enough at the game to make the gun actually look good. I feel like it'd be a necessary handicap for him. Anyway,
+Support

 

[GameRush_cz]

+support
The only way in which the Spectre is useful is when you get rushed, whiff your entire perma weapon mag and the enemy is left at like 30 hp (even then reloading would still be most likely better)

 

[bob smit]

+SUPPORT
CIs Much needed buff

 

[Average member podidski]

just give CI marksman AWP and its goated

 

[Niox]

+support
The only way in which the Spectre is useful is when you get rushed, whiff your entire perma weapon mag and the enemy is left at like 30 hp (even then reloading would still be most likely better)

honest to god i would rather swap to my pistol

 

[CyberRecon]

+ Support get rid of this dogshit weapon (also maybe give us 2 loadouts for marksman )

 

[James Dingle]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @Niox ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):

As it currently stands, the Content Team don't see a need to change this weapon as compared to it's Foundation counterpart it actually performs ever so slighty better. With that being said, in the future we may look to do some balancing work to align Marksmen roles more closely in relation to their secondary.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​