Denied 008-2 SCP restraints

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
- Allow 008-2 instances to be cuffed with SCP restraints as they were able to prior to the 08/08/2025 change log

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:<br>
- Not that I've seen yet

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Sampling can be easily done (benefits all GOIs, will be explained in the bottom)
- Realism (Will be explained on the last part)

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Only ONE possible negative, is someone could try cuffing an instance during a breach but... that isn't really possible or doable while being actively attacked.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
- Starting of with an explanation. Originally we would start the sampling by injecting the D class, then cuffing the instance as the instance starts getting up. Cuffing an instance was basically the only way you could sample an instance as there's no way to freeze them, so far we've had to rely on hoping the instance won't immediately attack which thankfully hasn't been a problem. Though, I can definitely see it becoming one eventually.

Moving onto the positives, if the instances can be cuffed, Foundation, and both GOIs can easily sample 008-2 instances or have them cuffed without any issue. CI can cuff instances to drop them into vents. Moving onto the second part, it would arguably be realistic to cuff an instance , especially AS its getting up as its unable to defend or run away.


Finally, the negatives which is that. Some genius might try to cuff an instance during a breach.... I don't even know if that's possible seeing you'd be attempting to cuff something moving around and hitting you, that will likely turn you into one of them.

Basically, I think letting us cuff 008-2 instances can be very good for sampling and other LARPs in which we have to drag an 008-2 instance!
 
I actually like it as is so I'm not in favor of this suggestion.
Removing the ability for players to restrain SCP-008-2 immediately not only fixes the issue of having immortal 008-2 instances during breaches but also causes players to actually engage in further preparations for a SCP-008-2 test/sampling rather than just immediately restraining the instance. The only positive you described is essentially speeding up the end result but I think roleplay benefits from slowing it down.
 
I actually like it as is so I'm not in favor of this suggestion.
Removing the ability for players to restrain SCP-008-2 immediately not only fixes the issue of having immortal 008-2 instances during breaches but also causes players to actually engage in further preparations for a SCP-008-2 test/sampling rather than just immediately restraining the instance. The only positive you described is essentially speeding up the end result but I think roleplay benefits from slowing it down.
The immortal issue comes from regular handcuffs OR from someone pressing "stop dragging" which arguable could be hardcoded one day to not work on an 008-2 instance as i don't know why you'd ever let something so dangerous wonder in cuffs. (not like it'd be able to do much but run and make spores)

And an instance not being cuffed doesnt make any further preparations. We really havent changed anything as we've had to rely on D class not attacking us the moment they turn. It just causes unneeded fear in all honesty
 
I actually like it as is so I'm not in favor of this suggestion.
Removing the ability for players to restrain SCP-008-2 immediately not only fixes the issue of having immortal 008-2 instances during breaches but also causes players to actually engage in further preparations for a SCP-008-2 test/sampling rather than just immediately restraining the instance. The only positive you described is essentially speeding up the end result but I think roleplay benefits from slowing it down.
This is fhe intention yes
008 is the most dangerous scp on site yet players could cheese it by cuffing it and get samples with zero effort.
There are ways to sample 008 without cuffing it (i did it when i was in e11 and the method hasnt been patched out). You should be preparing and planning something like an 008 sampling test.
 
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