Rule Suggestion Rules on wars between groups

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henriqueerz

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Wars between two groups of Foundation (Ex. A1 vs O1) has been something that happens for a very long while, but it is very odd that there are no server rules for this type of activity, on could even argue that these two groups are simply commiting Mass RDM. I think that a rule would help formalize this activity, creating rules would also help create boundaries for this type of activity, as of right now someone doing a War can just do whatever they want.

A few boundaries of this rule would be:
- It's necessary to announce the groups that are involved in the War and location of where it's happening
- It's necessary approval of SL
- A War cannot happen while there's a ongoing code (excluding a Riot)

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I was not able to find someone suggesting the addition of rules for Wars

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Formalizing this activity would make it so other groups do not get involved in a War (ISD may think that the group is commiting Treason and killing Foundation Personnal)
- Creating boundaries for this type of activity would allow so they dont interfere with other players just trying to play the game

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Players who already do Wars may not want this change so they can keep doing it without any boundaries
- Another thing that Staff would have to moderate over

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
In my opinion War's are very jaring for someone who's just playing the server and don't know whats going on, for them a group of players are just killing each other and going unpunished, and may think that's because of their rank.
 
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So.. we are going to ignore the fact that wars such as AO Wars can occur even in SCP Tales and Wikis?

That two groups especially O1 and A1 can have such different views on different things that eventually conflict will come their way? Wars can happen cause of RP Storylines to which we encourage heavily

Of course, Wars must not occur so regularly that it becomes an actual issue for server health, This is taken into consideration as such wars could take up large parts of the site denying RP alltogether to innocent bystanders.

Trust me when i say this, There are agreements in place that no unnecessary war is to occur and even if there is, There is to be minimal territory skirmishes and that goes for every group, NU7, E11, A1, O1, what have you.

-SUPPORT
 
This has always generally been seen as something up to each server's SSL team

On the UK they had the AO conflict standards designed by the ECC, -1, and SL, and i think thats existed for a while but was recently removed

On the USA they had a policy of limiting GOI conflicts without approval, due to an excessive amount of goc conflicts interrupting too much server rp.

If it gets out of hand NL can step in, but wars between groups aren’t a consistent thing and are almost always caused by decisions in leadership or as a result of roleplay, both of which are different for USA and UK. A global rule wouldn't be a good fit for the problem here
 
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So.. we are going to ignore the fact that wars such as AO Wars can occur even in SCP Tales and Wikis?

That two groups especially O1 and A1 can have such different views on different things that eventually conflict will come their way? Wars can happen cause of RP Storylines to which we encourage heavily

Of course, Wars must not occur so regularly that it becomes an actual issue for server health, This is taken into consideration as such wars could take up large parts of the site denying RP alltogether to innocent bystanders.

Trust me when i say this, There are agreements in place that no unnecessary war is to occur and even if there is, There is to be minimal territory skirmishes and that goes for every group, NU7, E11, A1, O1, what have you.

-SUPPORT
just saying its annoying when you outside medbay and suddenly getting shot at cuz 0-1 is by D block and A-1 is by PW Bathrooms
 
This has always generally been seen as something up to each server's SSL team

On the UK they had the AO conflict standards designed by the ECC, -1, and SL, and i think thats existed for a while but was recently removed

On the USA they had a policy of limiting GOI conflicts without approval, due to an excessive amount of goc conflicts interrupting too much server rp.

If it gets out of hand NL can step in, but wars between groups aren’t a consistent thing and are almost always caused by decisions in leadership or as a result of roleplay, both of which are different for USA and UK. A global rule wouldn't be a good fit for the problem here
The AO Conflict Agreement set by Foundation Command, SSL and AO Commissioned Officers hasn't been removed at all on UK.
It still exists.
 
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This is obviously only for MTF groups, stop talking about gensec lol
I can see two groups fighting over RP, but is there any case where 1 foundation group just killed the other? If we want to talk about IC you have to take whats going on at face value