Denied Adding higher quality (but nearly identical*) CI playermodels

[Bill Nye The Guy]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
adding the spetsnaz models from MW3 onto the server (which the slightly lower quality CI versions are based on) or changing the CI models to them:

Steam Workshop::MW3 Spetsnaz Playermodels

steamcommunity.com

EDIT: THIS IS NO LONGER AN ADDON FOR INSURGENCY AND IS ACTUALLY FOR GMOD
**the current marksman model doesn't appear in the addon but there's a different version of the marksman in it
***there's not an identical juggernaut model however another jugg model from MW3 can always be ported over

Steam Workshop::MW3 Juggernauts Playermodels

steamcommunity.com

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):

• better quality CI models
• goes along with (what seems to be) a trend of revamping playermodels
• would look a lot cooler
• gives CI faces (which none of them have atm)
• custom c_hands for CI

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:

• people might need to re-do their PACs (this can be solved by adding the new playermodels as different skins for the same job, like you can do as D-class, I haven't met any errors with my CI PACs using these models yet though)
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• issues with the person who made this addon?
• time taken/money paid to commission somebody to put chaos emblems and the like onto these models
• might make the contentpack slightly larger (although you guys have put exabytes of my little pony playermodels on other CG servers so idk if its too big of an issue)
• might be a bad look using premade playermodels (a lot of the server playermodels seem to be made by cheddar or dedicated modellers void a few)
• marksmen playermodel appears to be custom-made and would have to be replaced/remade
• seemingly less customisation since these are ports from MW3? (if there's a commission to turn them into CI it can always be added then though)
• CI having actual faces might make the faction look a little silly

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
i think it'd be nice to use/add higher quality playermodels that the current CI models are very obviously based on considering other jobs are getting new ones as well

COMPARISONS:
Officer+:

R&D:

No backpack model, I'd guess it's custom?

Strike Team:


Delta:



No marksman model, here's a comparison of MW3s sniper and the current CI one (i admit the current marksman one looks pretty cool)

 

[Naffen]

-support, these look shit

 

["Sigma"]

+Support
to getting better models for ci but the ci faces gives away the mysteriously they try to hide to not give up information when taken to not put there family in trouble or somthing and also these models that you showed i get where your going but to be honest it doesnt fit the dark snowy feel the ones we have now are good but i can see what you mean but i think only change 1 or 2 of them right now they just fit well

 

[Nate Mercer / 'Tactician']

+ Support
Even if these models weren’t fully implemented but the CI models were given some parts of this model pack would be really nice. The model wearing a beret and RPG backpack would be nice addition to the current models to give some variation between job models.

 

[Cheddar]

These aren't for GMOD, these are for insurgency.

 

[Claire!]

-Support
Not for gmod.

 

[Darren]

please check if the models can be used for gmod next time

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

edit:

please check if the models can be used for gmod next time

-Support
Not for gmod.

These aren't for GMOD, these are for insurgency.

changed the addon so it's actually on gmod this time

 

[Millzy]

+Support but for the lenses of goggle and gas masks, make sure they're blacked out; purpose of preserving the spooking CI feel.

 

[Cloak]

You just linked 200MB worth of models. There's no chance we are adding 200MB worth of models. It can probably be reduced a lot by compression but that might kill some of the "higher quality" and there's only so far you can compress before they look bad.

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

You just linked 200MB worth of models. There's no chance we are adding 200MB worth of models. It can probably be reduced a lot by compression but that might kill some of the "higher quality" and there's only so far you can compress before they look bad.

i only tried with about three different files, most of the materials are 1024x1024 vtf files, halving its size (of course makes them lower quality) but i've consistently gotten between a half and a third the file sizes:

alongside this, if one of the three types of skins (lets say arctic for example) was removed we'd be getting approximately a 20MB file reduction (here it only shows 18.7mb of arctic files, but the sniper's one is misspelled and so not included:

i don't have the patience to half the resolution of each file, but i think the file size could be reduced to something workable, what file size is too large for an addon?
you're right that a lower resolution might remove the point of adding "higher quality" models but i still think a fresh look for CI would be nice
it also looks like a lot of the file size is from vvd files (which as far as I know are responsible for its 3d model?), is it feasible to make these smaller? i have no idea
a lot of them seem totally unnecessary as well (why do we need mtl_russian_military_shotgun, smg, lmg, and so on if we aren't using them?)
there's also a good chance i have no idea what im talking about and none of this this would help

 

[verybobby]

Suggestion Denied

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Hi @Bill Nye The Guy,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion. The file sizes are way too large, and compression would simply reduce the quality of the models. In the future, please consider file size as a factor for models.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​