Denied ECM/ECC CL4 Card

[Caeden]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion would see Ethics given a CL4 card upon spawn as well as their CL5 card.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
CL3 and below members of personnel are under the impression that the Ethics Committee is a CL4 branch of foundation and having them having to use a CL5 card to open doors is very irritating if a door shuts on them as they have to try and hide the CL5 card.
Realistically the foundation would easily be able to make an extra few cards to hide something that shouldnt be public knowledge

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Im not sure if you can have 2 different biometric cards but I think it should be fine.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Would help enhance the roleplay around ECMs and not having to hide their card or worry that they'll need to amnesticate people just for seeing them open a door.

 

["Onion"]

from what i've been able to tell from the system in place, this would be more effort than its worth. spawning with 2 cards hasnt been done before and is a pain in the ass. it would be more effort than its worth for developers. this is just unnecessary

 

[Painter]

+/-support

RDM an O-1 for one

 

[Auburn]

from what i've been able to tell from the system in place, this would be more effort than its worth. spawning with 2 cards hasnt been done before and is a pain in the ass. it would be more effort than its worth for developers. this is just unnecessary

Its literally a thing ERT already have (Bio CL3, non-Bio CL4) and all it requires is a change via the VJobEditor any Senior Admin can do.

Its something content team was discussing a while back when I was in it, and might very well be possible with the current state of the VKeycards addon.

+Support

 

[Niox]

+Support
-auburn is smart and i trust him

 

["Onion"]

Its literally a thing ERT already have (Bio CL3, non-Bio CL4) and all it requires is a change via the VJobEditor any Senior Admin can do.

Its something content team was discussing a while back when I was in it, and might very well be possible with the current state of the VKeycards addon.

+Support

eh whatever sure then why not

 

[Stealth]

+ Support

I could see how this would beneficial to Ethics due to them being the public site command. However, I would argue that if implemented that this should be added for O5 as well.

Additionally from my experience within ISD when escorted ISD will open doors to discourage the use of CL5 within public areas.

 

[Skittles]

+Support

what auburn said

 

[cityismy]

+Support
You suggest like a God, add me ?

 

[Zen]

Adding for O5 as well is a good idea. If they ever want to go around as "Site Inspector"s, which I've seen a few times, it would be good for them to have that cover. Could maybe even have their CL4 card have Site Inspector as their role.

 

[Michael Dzhetnikov]

i dont think ethics being cl5 is a secret

 

[Nomad_600]

from what i've been able to tell from the system in place, this would be more effort than its worth. spawning with 2 cards hasnt been done before and is a pain in the ass. it would be more effort than its worth for developers. this is just unnecessary

ERT ?

 

[Renolk]

Ethics CL5 aint much imo, it would only help them with their disguises if they are going about

 

[Charles "Ze" Whittme]

i dont think ethics being cl5 is a secret

It is.
Ethics being CL5 is a more secret then the existence of the O5.
(That being, CL2/CL3 knows O5 exists but only CL4 know Ethics are CL5, "The longest lie" is what this is called)

To CL3 and below, Ethics are simply CL4.

 

[Michael Dzhetnikov]

It is.
Ethics being CL5 is a more secret then the existence of the O5.
(That being, CL2/CL3 knows O5 exists but only CL4 know Ethics are CL5, "The longest lie" is what this is called)

To CL3 and below, Ethics are simply CL4.

according to what? Site-65 docs?

 

[cityismy]

according to what? Site-65 docs?

According to server lore, and me, i said so so its fucking true, RAHHH

 

[Charles "Ze" Whittme]

according to what? Site-65 docs?

Lore and agreed documents. Such as the CL4 guide on UK.

 

[Michael Dzhetnikov]

Lore and agreed documents. Such as the CL4 guide on UK.

lame

 

[J. 'Eidolon' Shekelstein]

+ Support

A very server-lore friendly concept that would be well at home within ethics committee RP.

 

[Caeden]

i dont think ethics being cl5 is a secret

CL4+ know that Ethics is CL5.