Keeping items you pick up

[Lester Green]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Makes it so you keep picked up keycards, weapons and dispenser items after you get revived.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Don't think so

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Get another chance at keeping your inventory items like freedoms.
Less having to wait for dispenser items like field kit and TE5 if you die and get revived.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Probably some since it was a feature but was removed, I do not know what they are though.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I think it's more realistic, and a good QoL thing.

 

[Playdoughzombie]

This is still an active feature? -Support

 

[Lester Green]

This is still an active feature? -Support

You lose everything you didn't spawn with when you get revived.

 

[Glazzing]

+support

 

[Zen]

+Support
Me when I magically gain back my spawn equipment that I lost, and lose all of my dispenser equipment to the void, because I dared to be revived by a medic.

 

[Niox]

+Support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

+Support
if possible, might be a technical issue that is messing with this
also the way things are kind of screws with RP a little?

like imagine the following scenario:

d-class with valid work program docs is milling around in medbay.
they grab a cl3 card off a dead person.
gsd escort notices this and immediately kills the d-class (unethical and not the right thing to do, sure, but still valid reason (especially server rule-wise, which is the important part of this) and i can kind of see the escort's point here)
just as the d-class dies, some cl4 w/ escorts and a combat medic walk in having just seen a gsd seemingly randomly shoot the d-class
gsd explains the situation to cl4
cl4 has d-class revived
d-class does not have keycard
gsd, instead of being taken to IA, ends up actually getting warned for RDM instead because that's how the framing of events makes it appear

not the best example, but you can see how in a lot of situations, having and then suddenly not having something you were supposed to have messes with the situation

however, we also need to consider the following that might be an obstacle to getting this sorted:

i get keycard above the clearance i spawn with
i die and get revived, getting all the items i had back
since behind the scenes, i am basically being spawned at that point with a bunch of items, i potentially receive that higher clearance keycard biometrically and might also get access to comms i shouldn't have

real bio CL4 tech expert moment - definitely not a situation staff want happening

 

[Lester Green]

+Support
if possible, might be a technical issue that is messing with this
also the way things are kind of screws with RP a little?

like imagine the following scenario:

not the best example, but you can see how in a lot of situations, having and then suddenly not having something you were supposed to have messes with the situation

however, we also need to consider the following that might be an obstacle to getting this sorted:

real bio CL4 tech expert moment - definitely not a situation staff want happening

Before the feature was removed, you did not get bio after being revived.

 

[Zen]

+Support
if possible, might be a technical issue that is messing with this
also the way things are kind of screws with RP a little?

like imagine the following scenario:

not the best example, but you can see how in a lot of situations, having and then suddenly not having something you were supposed to have messes with the situation

however, we also need to consider the following that might be an obstacle to getting this sorted:

real bio CL4 tech expert moment - definitely not a situation staff want happening

Afaik, when you spawn with multiple ID cards, only the lowest one is biometric. This can also be mitigated by simply having it so you don't spawn with the extra items, but that the server instead gives you the items after you spawn, which is easy to do.

 

[Dalton]

+ Support

Sounds more like a bug but yeah madly stupid this happens.

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

+support this is a bug ask staff if you lose something, i've had them refunded many times before

 

[Biscuits]

+Support
this is a bug PLS FIX!!!!!!!

 

[Bush von Mann]

+ Support

Electroshock therapy is currently used if you don't have a keycard, which makes 0 sense in RP
It's a bug that's been around so long it's actually a feature in RP, which smells like laziness

 

[Second]

+reputation also fix this with the EST machine

 

[Auburn]

This is a bug. It will be put on the Github shortly. Thank you for the report, but in the future please make a bug ticket on the discord.