Name:
MTF A-1 Corporal "Watcher" (AKA Liam "Apathy" Wilkosh, OA)
Steam ID:
STEAM_0:0:156598349
Please state if it is for SCP-RP UK or USA:
SCPRP-USA
Level of appeal (2 or 3):
2
Have you already carried out a level 1 appeal - please give details:
Yes. A-1 Major 'Keeper' DMed at 2 in the morning saying I was being removed. I asked for more details, and tried to explain my case about why the punishment doesn't really fit the "crime" here, but he refused and ended up not responding further. I then went to confront Harlequin, and he did not want to speak to me further. Full screenshots of all conversations will be posted in this appeal to be reviewed by an unbiased third party.
Who did you carry out the level 1 appeal to, and where:
A-1 Major Keeper & A-1 LTCOM Harlequin, in Discord DMs
Rank demoted from:
Corporal
Who demoted you?:
A-1 CO Team vote
Date of demotion?:
5/18/2023
What is the case against you?:
The A-1 CO Team believes I was "repeatedly unprofessional" in public as A-1, ruining A-1s 'public image'. This was their reason stated to me for my removal.
Is this true?:
Not in the way that they try to make it out to be. Some parts may be true though. More, along with evidence, will be explained in the last question with my side of the story.
Prior to this demotion, have you ever been demoted?:
No
Please list any previous roleplay demotion appeals:
N/A
What is your side of the story?:
I'll give a timeline leading up to the demotion, and try to provide a completely unbiased explanation of everything that happened.
5/14/2023:
This is what led to me having my first strike in Alpha-1. What happened was that me, an A-1 Lieutenant (Torment), and a couple E-11 were hanging out at checkpoint while disguised to make sure E-11 is okay. Birdie approached the checkpoint and kept begging to be brought to the acid pit. Prior to this, she kept asking people for signatures to allow her into HCZs acid pit. Because of this, I felt bad, and nothing was going on. So, I decided to ask the A-1 Lieutenant for express permission to let birdie into the HCZ Acid Pit, with his supervision. The A-1 Lieutenant, after I asked "Hey can I let birdie inside HCZ so she can go in the acid pit?", he said "Yea sure go for it". So, I cuffed Birdie and E-11 had no objections with me letting her in HCZ, they seemed to have felt just as bed (E-11 Captain Spaghetti was there aswell). I showed my Site ID, and went into HCZ. The A-1 Lieutenant supervised me, and made no attempt to stop me or try to communicate that he changed his mind. He was directly supervising me as I did all of this.
However, an IA Ambassador followed me and got angry (This IA Ambassador was harassing and targetting A-1 all day at the time, because he had a problem with them. I was just one of his targets by pure chance), demanding I don't let Birdie into HCZ. I don't listen to the Ambassador, since my A-1 Lieutenant was still there and supervising me with no objections. My approval that I got prior still stood, and any reasonable person in my situation would believe the same. From there, Birdie jumped herself into the acid pit of her own will. The I.A Ambassador then huffed and puffed and stomped away, threatening to report me. This is where my involvement in that situation ends. Overall though, the situation does end up escalating because the CO who supervised me decided to order A-1 to kidnap and amnesticize the Ambassador because he "saw too much". I had 0 input in what happened in that decision or beyond that point.
This is what got me striked. I explained I had CO permission and supervision, and the CO admitted this aswell. However, I got strike regardless, along with the CO, so A-1 could save their own public image after the incident escalated.
5/16/2023:
An announcement was made about professionalism in A-1. This is a small event, but somewhat relevant.
5/18/2023:
I got DMed at 2 in the morning by Major Keeper, saying I was being removed for repeated unprofessionalism. Screenshots of the entire conversation will be attached to this post. To summarize; Keeper, and the CO team, voted to have me removed (essentially). They claim the reason for this was because I was cuffing random people while disguised as a Chef, as claimed by an IA Ambassador. This claim was entirely false and just a straight up lie. When I asked for evidence, Keeper admits he doesn't have any.
The other example described for my removal was how I cuffed Keeper infront of A-1, leading to me being shot down. At this moment, I was disguised as a Tech Expert. Everyone was bored, and nothing was happening. We were all just sitting in one spot waiting for something to happen. So, I decided to have some harmless fun while disguised. This did not ruin the public image of A-1, this did not break any server rules, and this did not affect anything that A-1 was doing. People in comms laughed and smiled, which was my ultimate goal since people were bored. However, in the COs teams eyes, this is supposedly enough for complete removal. I continued to question Keeper as to why they issued such an explosive punishment compared to other alternatives, such as demotion or even speaking to me. The punishment did not fit the crime here. Eventually, Keeper refused to respond further.
I then went to confront Harlequin around 8 hours later, pointing out the hypocrisy of statements he's made before (Attached to post) and how the situation was unjust. For context, I previously asked Harlequin several weeks ago why obviously toxic members of A-1 (people who constantly said the R-Word, N-Word, etc infront of others and the CO team, along with tantrums of powertrips and rude remarks toward other players) were never removed or punished. Harlequin stated he didn't want to remove toxic people, and would only give PT/DT at best. He claims he didn't want to remove people "just for that". So of course, I found it hypocritical and confronted him. Essentially, Harlequin did not wish to speak to me or explain the situation further. He said he never had to deal with complaining before, and said he didn't want to talk. Screenshots of this conversation are attached to this post.
Overall, I believe the decision to remove me was biased. I was striked for something I did which I got approval and supervised for, then removed for something that never harmed Alpha-1. I was never spoken to regarding my "unprofessionalism", I was never confronted, I was never demoted or punished before this. I was never even spoken to regarding my removal. The CO team couldn't even manage to bring me into a teamspeak call to discuss my removal and talk to me face-to-face (or as close as you can get to it online). I believe my strike and removal is the effect of bias against me. I am not friends with anybody in the CO team, and I typically refuse to partake in toxic conversations with them that they have in private. I'm also a very loud and opinionated person, so I often go to people and discuss opinions I have. I believe this contributed to the CO team simply not liking me and how I wanted to change things in A-1, so they used the smallest infractions they could to deploy the most harsh possible punishments you could receive.
Note: I did many things for A-1, and I'm not just a random SPC or something. I made all of A-1s Documents including their SOPs and codewords, I nearly helped pay for brand new models for them, I constantly roleplayed with others and expressed myself positively infront of other people and did my job effectively to improve A-1s Image, and I've gotten virtually no complaints about me outside of the A-1 COs and the Birdie incident with the Ambassador. I always maintained good relations with all other players and regiments, and nobody else ever complained about me or anything I've done. I've led and initiated roleplay situations (for example, a cross-operation with DEA, Nu7, and A-1 to collect 323), and remained generally respectful toward everybody. I worked hard for nearly 2 months to get to where I am and prove myself and change things for the better, but I was removed in an instant via text at 2 AM for things that never hurt A-1s reputation or operations. All of my work that I have done was completely destroyed in a moment by the CO team, even when it was obvious I had 0 ill intention for A-1 and was not going to hurt the regiment in any way, not even its public image.
MTF A-1 Corporal "Watcher" (AKA Liam "Apathy" Wilkosh, OA)
Steam ID:
STEAM_0:0:156598349
Please state if it is for SCP-RP UK or USA:
SCPRP-USA
Level of appeal (2 or 3):
2
Have you already carried out a level 1 appeal - please give details:
Yes. A-1 Major 'Keeper' DMed at 2 in the morning saying I was being removed. I asked for more details, and tried to explain my case about why the punishment doesn't really fit the "crime" here, but he refused and ended up not responding further. I then went to confront Harlequin, and he did not want to speak to me further. Full screenshots of all conversations will be posted in this appeal to be reviewed by an unbiased third party.
Who did you carry out the level 1 appeal to, and where:
A-1 Major Keeper & A-1 LTCOM Harlequin, in Discord DMs
Rank demoted from:
Corporal
Who demoted you?:
A-1 CO Team vote
Date of demotion?:
5/18/2023
What is the case against you?:
The A-1 CO Team believes I was "repeatedly unprofessional" in public as A-1, ruining A-1s 'public image'. This was their reason stated to me for my removal.
Is this true?:
Not in the way that they try to make it out to be. Some parts may be true though. More, along with evidence, will be explained in the last question with my side of the story.
Prior to this demotion, have you ever been demoted?:
No
Please list any previous roleplay demotion appeals:
N/A
What is your side of the story?:
I'll give a timeline leading up to the demotion, and try to provide a completely unbiased explanation of everything that happened.
5/14/2023:
This is what led to me having my first strike in Alpha-1. What happened was that me, an A-1 Lieutenant (Torment), and a couple E-11 were hanging out at checkpoint while disguised to make sure E-11 is okay. Birdie approached the checkpoint and kept begging to be brought to the acid pit. Prior to this, she kept asking people for signatures to allow her into HCZs acid pit. Because of this, I felt bad, and nothing was going on. So, I decided to ask the A-1 Lieutenant for express permission to let birdie into the HCZ Acid Pit, with his supervision. The A-1 Lieutenant, after I asked "Hey can I let birdie inside HCZ so she can go in the acid pit?", he said "Yea sure go for it". So, I cuffed Birdie and E-11 had no objections with me letting her in HCZ, they seemed to have felt just as bed (E-11 Captain Spaghetti was there aswell). I showed my Site ID, and went into HCZ. The A-1 Lieutenant supervised me, and made no attempt to stop me or try to communicate that he changed his mind. He was directly supervising me as I did all of this.
However, an IA Ambassador followed me and got angry (This IA Ambassador was harassing and targetting A-1 all day at the time, because he had a problem with them. I was just one of his targets by pure chance), demanding I don't let Birdie into HCZ. I don't listen to the Ambassador, since my A-1 Lieutenant was still there and supervising me with no objections. My approval that I got prior still stood, and any reasonable person in my situation would believe the same. From there, Birdie jumped herself into the acid pit of her own will. The I.A Ambassador then huffed and puffed and stomped away, threatening to report me. This is where my involvement in that situation ends. Overall though, the situation does end up escalating because the CO who supervised me decided to order A-1 to kidnap and amnesticize the Ambassador because he "saw too much". I had 0 input in what happened in that decision or beyond that point.
This is what got me striked. I explained I had CO permission and supervision, and the CO admitted this aswell. However, I got strike regardless, along with the CO, so A-1 could save their own public image after the incident escalated.
5/16/2023:
An announcement was made about professionalism in A-1. This is a small event, but somewhat relevant.
5/18/2023:
I got DMed at 2 in the morning by Major Keeper, saying I was being removed for repeated unprofessionalism. Screenshots of the entire conversation will be attached to this post. To summarize; Keeper, and the CO team, voted to have me removed (essentially). They claim the reason for this was because I was cuffing random people while disguised as a Chef, as claimed by an IA Ambassador. This claim was entirely false and just a straight up lie. When I asked for evidence, Keeper admits he doesn't have any.
The other example described for my removal was how I cuffed Keeper infront of A-1, leading to me being shot down. At this moment, I was disguised as a Tech Expert. Everyone was bored, and nothing was happening. We were all just sitting in one spot waiting for something to happen. So, I decided to have some harmless fun while disguised. This did not ruin the public image of A-1, this did not break any server rules, and this did not affect anything that A-1 was doing. People in comms laughed and smiled, which was my ultimate goal since people were bored. However, in the COs teams eyes, this is supposedly enough for complete removal. I continued to question Keeper as to why they issued such an explosive punishment compared to other alternatives, such as demotion or even speaking to me. The punishment did not fit the crime here. Eventually, Keeper refused to respond further.
I then went to confront Harlequin around 8 hours later, pointing out the hypocrisy of statements he's made before (Attached to post) and how the situation was unjust. For context, I previously asked Harlequin several weeks ago why obviously toxic members of A-1 (people who constantly said the R-Word, N-Word, etc infront of others and the CO team, along with tantrums of powertrips and rude remarks toward other players) were never removed or punished. Harlequin stated he didn't want to remove toxic people, and would only give PT/DT at best. He claims he didn't want to remove people "just for that". So of course, I found it hypocritical and confronted him. Essentially, Harlequin did not wish to speak to me or explain the situation further. He said he never had to deal with complaining before, and said he didn't want to talk. Screenshots of this conversation are attached to this post.
Overall, I believe the decision to remove me was biased. I was striked for something I did which I got approval and supervised for, then removed for something that never harmed Alpha-1. I was never spoken to regarding my "unprofessionalism", I was never confronted, I was never demoted or punished before this. I was never even spoken to regarding my removal. The CO team couldn't even manage to bring me into a teamspeak call to discuss my removal and talk to me face-to-face (or as close as you can get to it online). I believe my strike and removal is the effect of bias against me. I am not friends with anybody in the CO team, and I typically refuse to partake in toxic conversations with them that they have in private. I'm also a very loud and opinionated person, so I often go to people and discuss opinions I have. I believe this contributed to the CO team simply not liking me and how I wanted to change things in A-1, so they used the smallest infractions they could to deploy the most harsh possible punishments you could receive.
Note: I did many things for A-1, and I'm not just a random SPC or something. I made all of A-1s Documents including their SOPs and codewords, I nearly helped pay for brand new models for them, I constantly roleplayed with others and expressed myself positively infront of other people and did my job effectively to improve A-1s Image, and I've gotten virtually no complaints about me outside of the A-1 COs and the Birdie incident with the Ambassador. I always maintained good relations with all other players and regiments, and nobody else ever complained about me or anything I've done. I've led and initiated roleplay situations (for example, a cross-operation with DEA, Nu7, and A-1 to collect 323), and remained generally respectful toward everybody. I worked hard for nearly 2 months to get to where I am and prove myself and change things for the better, but I was removed in an instant via text at 2 AM for things that never hurt A-1s reputation or operations. All of my work that I have done was completely destroyed in a moment by the CO team, even when it was obvious I had 0 ill intention for A-1 and was not going to hurt the regiment in any way, not even its public image.
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