Denied Slight edit to RDM rule

[Lucía "Skibble"]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Makes it so that killing a d class who is cuffed isn't RDM every single time (see last 3 paragraphs)

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Fewer people warned for RDM
Allows MTFs to get on with duties more

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
D class losing stuff (an argument already made by staff)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Currently, it's considered RDM if you kill a cuffed d class who is compliant. This makes sense, but I've noticed that a few people have been warned for it when I think it shouldn't have been.

Let's paint a scene. It's a code 5, mass SCP breach and I'm an E11. I've got to get to the breach. Out of nowhere, someone hands me a d class and runs off. This d class is compliant, but I now have him in the middle of a code 5. 106 isn't out, so I have no use for him. The best, but unethical, thing to do would be to just kill him and get on with the breach. This wouldn't be random at all, I have a very valid RP reason for killing him: there are much bigger issues that I have to get to. Yet under the current way RDM works, this would be a rulebreak and would see me warned.

I understand the argument of D class RP, which has been made on complaints relating to this rule, but equally mine would be disrupted by having to find someone to return the d class / walk all the way to d block in the middle of E-11's gameplay loop. It's absolutely unethical and would be a very valid IC thing, but I don't think it should extend to OOC in every circumstance. Unethical but more efficient ways to get on with MTF duties shouldn't be RDM.

 

[Free "Spirit"]

Massive +Support​

 

[Boris Johnson]

-Support​

Let me hurt the RP situation so that I can go contain SCP's that are eventually going to get contained anyways moment.

 

[Saphira Harlow]

Huge +Support

 

[Jack Frost]

- Support
Your only option isn't to take them back or kill them. You can just ignore the d-class and go deal with the breach.

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

-support i think it removes any opportunity for the d class to escape and hurts rp, isn't that what the whole server is about? there's barely any d-class RP anyway and adding more cases where it's fine to just shoot them EVEN IF THEY ARE COMPLIANT is silly imo

 

[Gizzmo]

-support i think it removes any opportunity for the d class to escape and hurts rp, isn't that what the whole server is about? there's barely any d-class RP anyway and adding more cases where it's fine to just shoot them EVEN IF THEY ARE COMPLIANT is silly imo

D-class escape RP: Kill people trying to RP, breach SCP, die, repeat.
10/10 experience, this must be protected at all cost.
+support, the mental gymnastics you have to take to say D-class prolonging breaches ten-fold is "enhancing RP" is blatant if you play on USA early morning.

 

[Karol 'Negotiator' W.]

-Support​

Let me hurt the RP situation so that I can go contain SCP's that are eventually going to get contained anyways moment.

dclass main moment

 

[Karol 'Negotiator' W.]

+support

 

[Michael Dzhetnikov]

-Support
There are actual scenarios where it is literally RDM.

 

[Mirage]

-Neutral
The idea on paper sounds good but I feel like this could abused and might have SL will have to be extremely specific about what is RDM and what isn’t.

 

[Bohemia]

+ Support
Man if I'm a cuffed D-Class in like Delta Wing, I'd rather just get put down tbh

 

[Biscuits]

+Support
I hate D-Class. This could be abused by mingy GSD to avoid doing any of their duties, then screaming "It's an IC issue!!!".

 

[Foxatron]

Suggestion Denied ​

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Hi @Skittles ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a suggestion.

The reason we have denied this is because you are just asking for a clarification rather than suggesting a change.

kind regards,

Foxatron
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