The comedic parts of G-Job.. (rant)

[Niox]

remove GOC

 

[Damian 'Damned']

Remember when i was goc the main gameplay loop was to rdm each other in bunks

 

[Naffen]

Feel free to DM me your ideas and suggestions you think are beneficial to the RP GOC can have or provide to make it a more enjoyable faction, and i can discuss each idea you guys have, explaining what we (SSL) are capable of implementing and what is out of our hands to try clear the air or confusion.

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

Feel free to DM me your ideas and suggestions you think are beneficial to the RP GOC can have or provide to make it a more enjoyable faction, and i can discuss each idea you guys have, explaining what we (SSL) are capable of implementing and what is out of our hands to try clear the air or confusion.

Respectfully. Why should we bother at this point?

I know Danm well that several Generals (Or the EXO team in general) has spent time actively trying to get changes implemented, and they are rarely reciprocated.

At least back when I was LT, it felt like SSL actively ignored issues with the GOC, unless it effected Foundation in some way. (Case in point, the fact I had a bug report open for 10-12 days to add Helmetcams to all GOC jobs, something that I was told any Senior Admin could do)

 

[Naffen]

Respectfully. Why should we bother at this point?

I know Danm well that several Generals (Or the EXO team in general) has spent time actively trying to get changes implemented, and they are rarely reciprocated.

At least back when I was LT, it felt like SSL actively ignored issues with the GOC, unless it effected Foundation in some way. (Case in point, the fact I had a bug report open for 10-12 days to add Helmetcams to all GOC jobs, something that I was told any Senior Admin could do)

I had a giant thread open with UK GOC COs where we actively discussed these ideas and suggestions and we made some good ground on what is possible and what it balanced additions that could be added, and those ideas have been forwarded already which were in dev works already

So I'm not entirely too sure where this rhetoric of "SSL ignore us" comes from. I haven't heard of US GOCs ideas or suggestions, I'm sure UK GOC has a lot more ideas I haven't seen yet which is why I'd love to hear them.

Just because you had a bad run in with 1 SSL doesn't mean we're all shit or don't care. If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the position I'm in or be here discussing in this thread

 

[The Guardian]

I had a giant thread open with UK GOC COs where we actively discussed these ideas and suggestions and we made some good ground on what is possible and what it balanced additions that could be added, and those ideas have been forwarded already which were in dev works already

So I'm not entirely too sure where this rhetoric of "SSL ignore us" comes from. I haven't heard of US GOCs ideas or suggestions, I'm sure UK GOC has a lot more ideas I haven't seen yet which is why I'd love to hear them.

Just because you had a bad run in with 1 SSL doesn't mean we're all shit or don't care. If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the position I'm in or be here discussing in this thread

It's not "one bad SSL". It's continued disrespect and an unwillingness to listen.

No changes AFAIK have been made from any discussions you might've had, and the update from 4 months ago is dead in the water because the dev left. Rules get stricter for us, to the point Ventz has now ruled staff can't even assist when we go in to ADB SCPs (which I feel I don't even need to explain how that makes AR liquidations nearly impossible and will only lead to more breaches.)

UK GOC seems caught up in gun changes of all things, when we have the best kits in the game and absolutely nothing to actually do with them. Thank God we at least got NVGS, though trying to do combat on surface without a staff member coming to breathe down our neck is near impossible.

I can speak for the US side when I say our supers SEEM to not care at all for our complaints or ideas.

I'd LOVE to see a rework. I'd love a base rework. I'd love a civilian job that works with GOC as a way to onboard lower levels into GOC. I'd like more missions to exist, surface flags to claim for each GoI that gives passive rewards, another surface SCP (Astra had the idea of a 939 variant for surface.) I'd like our AR teams to be able to take AA in for liquidations.

As it stands, however, we've only received rulings that make our very little presence on the server even more difficult, and perma props taken away.

I'm glad we've received what little we have (looking at you, NVGs and AA12), but the only response we receive is derision, staunch denials, or empty promises. It's disappointing and demoralizing.

 

[Starling6]

It's not "one bad SSL". It's continued disrespect and an unwillingness to listen.

No changes AFAIK have been made from any discussions you might've had, and the update from 4 months ago is dead in the water because the dev left. Rules get stricter for us, to the point Ventz has now ruled staff can't even assist when we go in to ADB SCPs (which I feel I don't even need to explain how that makes AR liquidations nearly impossible and will only lead to more breaches.)

UK GOC seems caught up in gun changes of all things, when we have the best kits in the game and absolutely nothing to actually do with them. Thank God we at least got NVGS, though trying to do combat on surface without a staff member coming to breathe down our neck is near impossible.

I can speak for the US side when I say our supers SEEM to not care at all for our complaints or ideas.

I'd LOVE to see a rework. I'd love a base rework. I'd love a civilian job that works with GOC as a way to onboard lower levels into GOC. I'd like more missions to exist, surface flags to claim for each GoI that gives passive rewards, another surface SCP (Astra had the idea of a 939 variant for surface.) I'd like our AR teams to be able to take AA in for liquidations.

As it stands, however, we've only received rulings that make our very little presence on the server even more difficult, and perma props taken away.

I'm glad we've received what little we have (looking at you, NVGs and AA12), but the only response we receive is derision, staunch denials, or empty promises. It's disappointing and demoralizing.

all valid and true; part of the reason i got burnt out and so many others

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

I had a giant thread open with UK GOC COs where we actively discussed these ideas and suggestions and we made some good ground on what is possible and what it balanced additions that could be added, and those ideas have been forwarded already which were in dev works already

So I'm not entirely too sure where this rhetoric of "SSL ignore us" comes from. I haven't heard of US GOCs ideas or suggestions, I'm sure UK GOC has a lot more ideas I haven't seen yet which is why I'd love to hear them.

Just because you had a bad run in with 1 SSL doesn't mean we're all shit or don't care. If I didn't care I wouldn't be in the position I'm in or be here discussing in this thread

It's not "one bad SSL". It's continued disrespect and an unwillingness to listen.

No changes AFAIK have been made from any discussions you might've had, and the update from 4 months ago is dead in the water because the dev left. Rules get stricter for us, to the point Ventz has now ruled staff can't even assist when we go in to ADB SCPs (which I feel I don't even need to explain how that makes AR liquidations nearly impossible and will only lead to more breaches.)

UK GOC seems caught up in gun changes of all things, when we have the best kits in the game and absolutely nothing to actually do with them. Thank God we at least got NVGS, though trying to do combat on surface without a staff member coming to breathe down our neck is near impossible.

I can speak for the US side when I say our supers SEEM to not care at all for our complaints or ideas.

I'd LOVE to see a rework. I'd love a base rework. I'd love a civilian job that works with GOC as a way to onboard lower levels into GOC. I'd like more missions to exist, surface flags to claim for each GoI that gives passive rewards, another surface SCP (Astra had the idea of a 939 variant for surface.) I'd like our AR teams to be able to take AA in for liquidations.

As it stands, however, we've only received rulings that make our very little presence on the server even more difficult, and perma props taken away.

I'm glad we've received what little we have (looking at you, NVGs and AA12), but the only response we receive is derision, staunch denials, or empty promises. It's disappointing and demoralizing.

I have nothing more I can add to Guardians reply. US UNGOC-C is **NOT** made aware of changes and is actively pushed away from them.