Rule Suggestion No animalistic models needs to be a rule.

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TimberedZulu115

TimberedZulu115

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Adds a new rule to the server PAC3 rules that states no animal traits are allowed for PAC3 models.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No, I have not seen any other similar suggestion.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Clear up confusion since the rules are now outdated right now.
Make things easier for everyone involved.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Backlash and reduced activity from certain players.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
As evident in the forums, any animalistic PAC is denied for being animalistic. The staff have stated that they are no longer approving any animal characters and dont plan to for the foreseeable future. Having said that, the rules should be changed to reflect that. It should now be stated in the PAC3 rules that animal models are no longer allowed on the server. I do not believe it is fair for someone to pay for PAC3 access, follow all the necessary rules, including lore, and still have their pac denied for exterior reasons. If the rules stated that no anthro models allowed, that will clear up a lot of confusion and save a lot of time for both players and staff.

Pacs with animalistic traits are being denied on mass with this denial message. The PAC3 rules need to be changed to reflect this. Either that or animal traits need to be allowed again. As of right now, this is a hidden rule that is not on the rulebook and should be added to clear up the confusion. I have nothing against animal traits, I think they are cool as long as they make sense, but the players that want animal traits shouldn't be gaslit into thinking that their pac is allowed when its not.
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Sule Goodman said:
yk u can js turn off pac right

+ Support tho
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Im not against those particular pacs. I actually support them and wish that they were allowed. But they are no longer allowed and because of that, a lot of players pac request have been getting denied that by all means, should be approved unless there is some sort of hidden rule(there is). I believe animalistic traits should be allowed again, or the rules need to say that they are no longer allowed.
 
TimberedZulu115 said:
Please check the denied PAC approval forums. I believe that it's needed for what Im seeing.
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All I see is your pac being denied for not fitting server lore, and another similar pac being denied for looking too cartoony.

This rule would also screw over people who have had their pacs that are "anthro" approved, such as;
The Gypsy Bard

PAC Approved Thread 'Incident Report - Darby'

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CLEARANCE LEVEL 4+ REQUIRED AHEAD​

Individuals found not of the adjusted clearance level will be up for violating the Code of Conduct in terms of Misuse 2, Protocol 1, and Information 1 and may involunatarily put themselves in danger of being amnesticized.
You have been warned.
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Incident Report 33-E.​

Incident takes place at Site-▇▇ located an undisclosed location in North-eastern Africa. At the request of Executive Darby...
Gordon Gudgeon

Thread '[US] PAC Request (Redacted to include a backstory richer with lore)'

PAC Requesting Approval

Lore:

Dr. Gordon Gudgeon was a man of exceptional intellect and an insatiable curiosity for the unknown. He had always been fascinated by the arcane, the enigmatic, and the unexplained. From a young age, he delved into the depths of various conspiracy theories and fringe science. His obsession with the supernatural and the uncharted realms of knowledge led him to pursue a career in the field of anomalous research.

Gordon hailed from a modest family, his parents nurturing his intellectual curiosity from the outset. He had a brother named Gilbert, who was his...

Although both are older posts, Gordon actively uses the pac on Exec.


This seems more like a cope suggestion than one with actual substance.
 
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Julien White said:
thats because no one is good enough with pac3 to pull off a cold ass furry fit on site-65... name 1 person that can do it
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Gordon's is pretty good. It got approved in 2023 but no other anthros have been approved since around 2024, that I know of, feel free to correct me. This proves my point actually since the only pac i have that was denied is almost identical to his except for being a guard. Its the same ported model, lol. So quality is not the leading reason for the mass denials.
 
NikoKlausVilhelm said:
All I see is your pac being denied for not fitting server lore, and another similar pac being denied for looking too cartoony.

This rule would also screw over people who have had their pacs that are "anthro" approved, such as;
The Gypsy Bard

PAC Approved Thread 'Incident Report - Darby'

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CLEARANCE LEVEL 4+ REQUIRED AHEAD​

Individuals found not of the adjusted clearance level will be up for violating the Code of Conduct in terms of Misuse 2, Protocol 1, and Information 1 and may involunatarily put themselves in danger of being amnesticized.
You have been warned.
​

Incident Report 33-E.​

Incident takes place at Site-▇▇ located an undisclosed location in North-eastern Africa. At the request of Executive Darby...
Gordon Gudgeon

Thread '[US] PAC Request (Redacted to include a backstory richer with lore)'

PAC Requesting Approval

Lore:

Dr. Gordon Gudgeon was a man of exceptional intellect and an insatiable curiosity for the unknown. He had always been fascinated by the arcane, the enigmatic, and the unexplained. From a young age, he delved into the depths of various conspiracy theories and fringe science. His obsession with the supernatural and the uncharted realms of knowledge led him to pursue a career in the field of anomalous research.

Gordon hailed from a modest family, his parents nurturing his intellectual curiosity from the outset. He had a brother named Gilbert, who was his...

Although both are older posts, Gordon actively uses the pac on Exec.


This seems more like a cope suggestion than one with actual substance.
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It seams you only looked at the first page. Please scroll through them some more. I will link you some.
 
NikoKlausVilhelm said:
All I see is your pac being denied for not fitting server lore, and another similar pac being denied for looking too cartoony.

This rule would also screw over people who have had their pacs that are "anthro" approved, such as;
The Gypsy Bard

PAC Approved Thread 'Incident Report - Darby'

output-onlinegiftools-2-gif.6418

CLEARANCE LEVEL 4+ REQUIRED AHEAD​

Individuals found not of the adjusted clearance level will be up for violating the Code of Conduct in terms of Misuse 2, Protocol 1, and Information 1 and may involunatarily put themselves in danger of being amnesticized.
You have been warned.
​

Incident Report 33-E.​

Incident takes place at Site-▇▇ located an undisclosed location in North-eastern Africa. At the request of Executive Darby...
Gordon Gudgeon

Thread '[US] PAC Request (Redacted to include a backstory richer with lore)'

PAC Requesting Approval

Lore:

Dr. Gordon Gudgeon was a man of exceptional intellect and an insatiable curiosity for the unknown. He had always been fascinated by the arcane, the enigmatic, and the unexplained. From a young age, he delved into the depths of various conspiracy theories and fringe science. His obsession with the supernatural and the uncharted realms of knowledge led him to pursue a career in the field of anomalous research.

Gordon hailed from a modest family, his parents nurturing his intellectual curiosity from the outset. He had a brother named Gilbert, who was his...

Although both are older posts, Gordon actively uses the pac on Exec.


This seems more like a cope suggestion than one with actual substance.
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Kito

PAC Request Thread '[US] ( Requires SSL ) Cédaris "Dare" Rovätoire's Grey Suit PAC3 & Lore Approval Request (#3)'

PAC Requesting Approval

LORE: ISR-081400/1222
  • Added visual, animated, toggleable tail, which requires SSL approval.
  • All lore was based around an event that happened in-game conducted by O5-3 "The Curator".
  • Lore was refined with assistance from SL (Revolutionary).
  • No other part of the PAC3 requires further approval; Just the tail. Thanks!
PAC Requested (Which job): GOC Soldier, Strike-Team
Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:120280980

Photograph of PAC:
https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/jritK4NSjR7j6q7Uz?invite=cr-MSxpdW4sMTQ1MDQ0NjY4LA...

TroubledZoru

PAC Request Thread 'SCP-914 Testing with Foxes'

Im essentially trying to have a character with animalist features. Similar to how Gordon has done it.

The story Im thinking of (Which I do actually wanna roleplay out if it gets approved)

PAC Requesting Approval
The PAC has a few changes such as the model and hair being added
Fox Appearance and textures
The Long Black Messy Hair
Blue Rubber Research Gloves

PAC Requested (Researcher)
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:107353353
Steam IDx64: 76561198174972434

It's a normal day at the facility as Zoru goes about his day having to get signatures and approval for his test. Eventually Zoru decided to do a...

JesterX3

PAC Request Thread '[UK] Ruby (fixed in compliance with rules.)'

LORE:
Character Dossier (REDONE)
Dimensional Explanation and Overview

Brief Summary: Ruby was already a scientist before being recruited into the SCP Foundation. From there she works tirelessly to prove she's just as good as her human peers.

OOC Information: She is 0.75 size, which I feel makes sense as a fennec fox. If it needs to be increased, thats fine, please comment to do so! She is noncombative so it should be fine but either way, no risks. Anything else, questions or otherwise, please comment and I will respond or fix it as soon as I can.

Photos...

Heres three more. Two of them are denied simply because of the animalistic traits, which proves my point on the dot. I understand that older players are currently using anthro/animalistic pacs, but this isnt fair to everyone else who want to do the same. If they are no longer allowing animalistic pacs, then it should be stated in the rules, as simple as that.
 
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Julien White said:
thats because no one is good enough with pac3 to pull off a cold ass furry fit on site-65... name 1 person that can do it
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@Houston Benton - I need you to look into this for me please.

TimberedZulu115 said:
Heres three more. Two of them are denied simply because of the animalistic traits, which proves my point on the dot. I understand that older players are currently using anthro/animalistic pacs, but this isnt fair to everyone else who want to the same. If they are no longer allowing animalistic pacs, then it should be stated in the rules, as simple as that.
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For at least two of these a part of their reason for denial was not just "this has animalistic traits so is bad" (although one out of three was), it was more about the models standing out in their quality.

I understand why a person may think this way, but these types of PAC3s can be accepted if they visually fit the server and the style the server has. A lot of animalistic / furry models taken from the workshop and other games have a very unrealistic and cartoony art style (because that is easiest to create) which don't often fit the server.
 
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The SCP universe at large has anthropomorphic humanoids, topical to that is the 1471 suggestion that has a lot of traction. Unfortunately, it's clear that more blatant showings of such aren't welcome on the community, because it's either a concern that people can't be mature enough about it to do anything more than point and laugh while saying "ew furry" or treat it like slop. I'd genuinely rather SL just be mature and admit that's the truth and outlaw more showish PAC requests like this instead of the PAC guidelines acting like they have a chance when they clearly don't.

It frustrates me to no end, because I know a few PAC requests had significant effort put in to be basically told "it doesn't fit in with the universe". It's the Foundation, we're all playing with our stinky little dolls that we think are cool. And, respectfully, if I may point out:
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THIS got accepted. Lore realism my ass, the issue is that the community isn't trusted to play nice with anything that could be even remotely "sensitive". Please just admit that and be done with it.
 
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Cade Valentine said:
+Support

The SCP universe at large has anthropomorphic humanoids, topical to that is the 1471 suggestion that has a lot of traction. Unfortunately, it's clear that more blatant showings of such aren't welcome on the community, because it's either a concern that people can't be mature enough about it to do anything more than point and laugh while saying "ew furry" or treat it like slop. I'd genuinely rather SL just be mature and admit that's the truth and outlaw more showish PAC requests like this instead of the PAC guidelines acting like they have a chance when they clearly don't.

It frustrates me to no end, because I know a few PAC requests had significant effort put in to be basically told "it doesn't fit in with the universe". It's the Foundation, we're all playing with our stinky little dolls that we think are cool. And, respectfully, if I may point out:
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THIS got accepted. Lore realism my ass, the issue is that the community isn't trusted to play nice with anything that could be even remotely "sensitive". Please just admit that and be done with it.
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You took the words right out of my mouth. They either need to allow anthro models or put in the new rule. This in the middle stance is causing problems.
 
YandereMuffin said:
@Houston Benton - I need you to look into this for me please.



For at least two of these a part of their reason for denial was not just "this has animalistic traits so is bad" (although one out of three was), it was more about the models standing out in their quality.

I understand why a person may think this way, but these types of PAC3s can be accepted if they visually fit the server and the style the server has. A lot of animalistic / furry models taken from the workshop and other games have a very unrealistic and cartoony art style (because that is easiest to create) which don't often fit the server.
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I dont understand. Two of them literally say exactly that. The first's and third one's denials explicitly say the denial reason is because their model features animalistic traits. My eyes are not deceiving me. The first one says that staff is no longer allowing these kind of pacs. Unless they are lying, but im seeing an undeniable pattern here. The only way this can be disproven is if you can show me anthro pac approvals after 2024 or around the same date that those ones were denied.
 
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