Partially Accepted Make 079 not appear in the tab menu or in f4 scp selection menu and a small buff for him.

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Porrin

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion aims at removing 079 from appearing in the tab menu with all the players jobs and names when a player is flagged on as the SCP. Another possible alternative would be making it so all SCPs in the tab menu just appear as SCP without their number designation. If it is also possible, I would like to mention the possibility of adding 3-5 random generators in HCZ to be hacked (with a normal hacking difficulty) before actually being able to hack 079 itself. This would make it so when he breaches he does not get instantly RC without being able to do anything before that point. People keep saying 079 players who get RC right after breaching suffer from "skill issue", when in reality it's either metagaming or the fact 079 has little time to get the hacking level needed to breach other SCPs before getting RC.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not that I am aware of.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
-Prevents metagaming.
-Makes 079 players feel like their time is not wasted by being RC after 2-5 minutes .

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Will make it so people do not really know when the SCP is on and may be a little irritating to try to get on the SCP only to find out it is already occupied.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Time and Time again I have seen 079 getting RC for dumb excuses such as:

- "The computer was broken"

- "This door closed on me"

-"The lights turned off" (when 15 minutes had not even passed for the lights to turn off automatically after silent breach)

and other foundation equipment breaking without it being 079's fault.

Some times there are clear signs that there is actually a 079 breach happening, and most of the time this signs happen when 079 has succesfully started breaching at least 2 SCPs, but sadly it almost never gets to that point.

079 is by far the most metagamed SCP in the entire server, and I believe this will at least help a little bit to solve this problem. The generators I mentioned above would also help a lot to fix this issue of him getting instantly RC. I do not think there would be a problem with this generators duing low pop as well since 079 is not allowed to mass breach and I think is only allowed to breach 1 SCP if not none at all.
 
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ArcherOfLegend said:
You do know this is because they assumed (often correctly) that 079 turned the lights off, right?
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Of course. I know that after 15 minutes of a silent breach the lights turn off which is a valid reason to believe 079 may have breached. I am saying that sometimes the lights go off before those 15 minutes even happen which by pressing tab and looking you are like "oh its a 079 silent breach" when in reality is because of a completely different reason 😭.

ArcherOfLegend said:
this is a cope suggestion so obviously -Support but
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Also no, this is not a cope suggestion. It's a real issue that has been going on for a while. If it had only happened to me yes but it also happens to other people who play 079. I do not know why you would be against a suggestion which aims to prevent metagaming (something that is not allowed). It literally just makes it so you actually need to go check to see if there is actually a 079 instead of just pressing tab and checking. The issue with 079 metagaming is that it is really hard to identify, so most of the time people get away with it.

Edit: if you actually see any negatives please mention them as I like seeing feedback of any kind as long as it has actual facts being mentioned. If you are just saying things like “cope” or “skill issue” I will not be reading nor responding unless it’s important for the feedback itself.
 
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Avery Snow said:
-Support for removing tab menu visibility (Makes things harder for RSD when they want to test SCP-079)
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An option can be to only show RSD and not combative personnel. You know how when you are an SCP/CI or UNGOC you cannot see the foundation jobs? I think that should be done but to SCPs, RSD can be an exception to that.
 
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+Support to the metagame changes, also they shouldn't have silent breaches contribute to site-wide outages, I totally agree with that it's a little silly lol
Porrin said:
An option can be to only show RSD and not combative personnel. You know how when you are an SCP/CI or UNGOC you cannot see the foundation jobs? I think that should be done but to SCPs, RSD can be an exception to that.
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Jello_on_mello said:
but be annoying to everyone
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How would it be annoying to everyone, to who? Are you suggesting that being able to check tab menu to see if 079 is on is that important that removing it can affect RP negatively? Let me remind you, for like a third time in this post, you are not even supposed to do that in the first place, it's metagaming. The only ones who should actually use that information are RSD since they do need to write and get documents signed to test/samples SCPs, and seeing which SCPs are on saves them the hustle of having to do that, plus getting the D-Class and going down to HCZ. MTF or any other combatives should not really be using OOC information for anything at all, so please tell me how would it would be annoying. I am sure that E11 are supposed to check all CCs when doing sweeps correct? So it's not like you actually need this information in the first place (unless you are indeed metagaming and checking tab menu to see where you need to go check). If you are actually reffering to getting on the job it's as easy as pressing f4, going to SCPs and clicking become job. If it's full, it will just say the job is already occupied.
 
You do realise that removing him from the TAB menu wont change this from happening

actions like hacking doors disabling lights will result at some point in someone checking 079
(There is a 10min period when he is first breached where he doesn't show up as so just so he isn't RCed instantly)

changing the Tab menu will do absolutely nothing to prevent that
(it could even make it so it happens more often lmao)

I don't think the information that a SCP is being played by someone is OOC information (there is even an announcement playing each time a SCP flags on)
also what's stopping from someone checking if 079 is on by using the job menu ? defeating the entire purpose of this change
(at this point why stop on the TAB menu just remove 079 from the server , you cant be metagamed if there is nothing to metagame)
 
Jello_on_mello said:
actions like hacking doors disabling lights will result at some point in someone checking 079
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Did you read the suggestion at all?
Porrin said:
Some times there are clear signs that there is actually a 079 breach happening, and most of the time this signs happen when 079 has succesfully started breaching at least 2 SCPs, but sadly it almost never gets to that point.
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I mentioned that here. Of course once he starts hacking doors and disabling lights people will realize 079 is out. This suggestion aims to prevent people from using dumb excuse as reasons to suspect 079 is out because they saw him on the tab menu. People should see clear evidence that something is wrong and check 079 to see if he is breached, not slight inconviniences or minor things like computers or broken cameras.

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I don't think the information that a SCP is being played by someone is OOC information
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It is. It's not like the SCPs IC are materializing in and out of their CCs everytime someone gets on and off the SCP. They are always supposed to be there, the announcemet is just to let RSD know there are actual players on the job by saying something like "this SCP is available now to be tested", but in reality they are (IC) always in their CCs.
Jello_on_mello said:
also what's stopping from someone checking if 079 is on by using the job menu ? defeating the entire purpose of this change
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The key difference is that if someone hops on 079 by checking if the job is open or not they have the risk of loosing all the things they may have on hand and does a rp reset to their characters. The idea is not showing whether the SCP is on or not, you can only "check" by pressing the become job option. This adds more risk than just pressing tab, and it will encourage people to get to the CC itself to check if they do not want to accidentally hop on it. Also, anybody who does not have XK-Class VIP will not be able to check at all since they are literally incapable of becoming 079, reducing the amount of people capable of metagaming.
Jello_on_mello said:
(it could even make it so it happens more often lmao)
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How so? You keep saying stuff like this and not providing facts to backup your arguments.
Jello_on_mello said:
(at this point why stop on the TAB menu just remove 079 from the server , you cant be metagamed if there is nothing to metagame)
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How is removing 079 from tab menu the same as removing him from the server entirely, you have to be trolling otherwise I am greatly worried about your reasoning abilities.

I will not be responding to any more responses unless it actually provides actual drawbacks or useful feedback.
 
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Smelly Dave said:
+Support to the metagame changes, also they shouldn't have silent breaches contribute to site-wide outages, I totally agree with that it's a little silly lol
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I think they should keep the site-wide outages once 15 minutes pass after a silent breach. Mostly because other players will have to wait a long periods of time before their queue timers resume since the active silent breach stops them entirely. Having a sign which shows that an SCP has breached helps foundation personnel have a valid reason to go inspect every corner and cranny for that specific SCP so it's not breached for hours, frustrating other SCPs.
 
+support

Should also be made to 035 also. And yes, E-11 does metagame 079 but they use the arguement that they were "Patroling/sweeping for CI".


Gonna go off-topic here but isn't Foundation that says it's a "Main point of this Roleplay Server"? How ironic that they say CI can't roleplay but they go out of their way and metagame a poor SCP.

Also love the E-11 -Support Warriors finally coming out.
 
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Headbutt said:
+support

e11 recontained 079 because they went in his cell "sweeping for ci" there hadn't been a raid for 3 hours. goes to show the lengths e11 will go to metagame an 079 breach.

also if people arent metagaming his breaches i dont see why this would be an issue?
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This is what you are referring to.

-Support, this is a dumb suggestion, patrolling is a valid thing, and I think this is stupid. Not meta game to patrol.
 
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Claire! said:
-Support, this is a dumb suggestion, patrolling is a valid thing, and I think this is stupid. Not meta game to patrol.
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Again, if you are not metagaming why would you be against adding this? Nobody ever mentioned patrols being metagaming. It’s the fact that as 079 you get checked VERY frequently because people see them on. I keep waiting to see an actual reason to deny this. All I have read so far is “dumb suggestion”, “cope suggestion”.
 
Suggestion Partially Approved​


Hi @Porrin ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to partially accept your suggestion for the following reasons:

Obfuscation of SCPs in the TAB menu is already planned in our Development Tracker (see here). Regarding the generators, we are currently not looking for something like this at the moment.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as partially accepted.​
 
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