Content Suggestion mega CI Overhall

[pricetag]

THIS IS US CI​

What does this suggestion change/add/remove
Give CI T-90 (which is already in the CI vehicle group so idk why its not in the game.) my number 1 pick btw
Ability to get warfunds from destroying Enemy vehicles ( we have 0 ways to get warfunds while F and GOC has infinite) second pick
Buff M202 (Idk why this WARFUND gl got nerfed because its actually useless now, we tell everyone NOT to buy these)
Buff BTR-90 (Give it AP ammo because ts is so ass, its too big ,slow, and low damage)
Buff BTR-82 ( every other vec. has bugged hitboxes (on the front atleast i have proof of the boxer at min) and the engine hitbox is bigger then my mom)
Give us some AT mines ( This would be fire WF item which is what we need not the dogshit that we get like 4 different supply crates of the same thing)
more player slots on jobs (wdym out of 140 player regiment we only have 1 jug)
Give us TIGER M ASG-30 (this is GL vec. it would help all the infantry that GOC and F have during hostile interaction)
New CI job "Mechanic" spawns in garage with only item being gun and a repair torch maybe a better version

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?
probably, mine is different because its actually needed

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
CI isn't outclassed by miles by the other 2 factions.
CI activity doesn't drop because we get shit on, on surface
All of CI can actually help instead of maybe 6 people max


Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
GOC and Foundation might hate on us because we are slightly under them instead of it being an insane outclass

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
why shouldn't this get accepted is the real question, now IK the content might say this is very bad suggestion BUT they don't actually play the game and just test it on stationary moments in GM plain. you have to factor in we have no infantry because he have 0 matadors/at4 24/7 because the people get sniped from 100 meters away or suits.
WE of CI Command arent looking for everything here but atleast a couple to help balance out.

 

[Jeffrey 'kemikaali']

Your PFP certainly matches, at least you are consistent. But being fr, I have something different to offer, what about.

Remove both BTRs
Gives Mines
Give FPV Drones ( Bomb drone but does a lot of damage to vehicles )
Give IEDs
Give Fortification tool ( to make roadblocks, this tool would be exempt from Prop Block rules on the roads of surface )
Give emplaced turrets and ATGM turrets
Give CI like 1 Million Warfunds per destroyed Boxer/LAV/Abrams/Puma/etc

This would kinda be fire and work but ieds would be abuse the reason no job spawns with them probably mines would need to be covered by leaves or we should be able to dig them into the ground ain't no way anyone is stupid enough to drive over them same thing as people trying to place slams on the road which never works and the prop spawning/placing any turrets and what not staff would expect us to abuse would be fire but it would have to be rank locked to probably MCOM with the stupidity of our own CI

 

[zari]

+support
CI needs a buff for sure, i mean let me just list a few things
we have 4 snipers versus 2, more like 10 if you include dea manager / director rifles
more machine guns, like mk8s & m60s
more disguise cards, 27 total possible compared to 2
best case scenario every DEA can be infantry and disguise as civs while nu7 gets vehicle dominance
we're definitely more powerful just give em better guns or something lol

 

[pricetag]

I just wanna add on, we had CI COM and LtCOM on us server and they didn’t really do anything other then steal enemy armor but that already happens on the norm. So it kinda shows there is a big gap from uk to us.

 

[Tiago]

I will be locking this suggestion until Content discuss and provide an answer, because it seems like the people involved in these discussions can't provide opinions without being toxic.

Cheers.

 

[Tiago]

I have decided to unlock this suggestion for valid and constructive feedback only.

Any attempts in sort of toxicity or shitposting, will be met with this suggestion being locked again and those involved having action taken against them.

 

[Niox]

US CI constantly in shambles to US Foundation, vs UK Foundation constantly being in shambles to UK CI
endless cycle that never ends

 

[Avery Snow]

-Support for everything but these two suggestions.

Give us some AT mines ( This would be fire WF item which is what we need not the dogshit that we get like 4 different supply crates of the same thing)
Buff Bomb drones ( does 0 dmg to vecs.)

 

[burgerly]

+support i dont like vehicle slop combat but CI does get mogged by any other foundation/goc vehicle

 

[kuba]

You literally have a better ammo for the BTR-90 which is HEAP rounds? AP rounds would be a nerf.

M202's can kill a tank with a few AT4's and a matador with it and its been buffed recently enough to be cheaper and have 2 M202's (I've never seen US CI call them in for some reason?)

Bomb drones have been buffed to do a good bit of damage to vehicles recently no buff needed

If you got a T-90 SOP would need a buff which I'm sure you would hate that

The "mechanic job" is stupid you have 6 CI operatives with repair tools and SOP have 6 repair tools total 4 locked behind CPL and 2 locked behind SGT while you get it as a alpha, If this was added SOP would have to get more repair tools for balancing.

And finally the TB is strong and CI are the only ones that get such a strong reality bender to fight consistently for them as the D-class TB needs to be class F'd and wanting to give themself up, Calling the TB bad means you probably have a skill issue if I was to be blunt.

-Support

 

[kuba]

This is a misinformed statement, it's not about what guns we have it is the balance of them in comparison to the other factions and how unbalanced it is IF you compare them. Lets go through the list shall we.

Juggernaut - Kac Stoner is WAY better not even comparable
DC - ?????? The gun is garbage
Strike Team > Just use a perma
Marskman -> Snipers are snipers SOP just has 4 of them.
Delta Op - Besides the ammo difference the MK8 has better spread in comparison to the PKM and the MK8 is accessible to 5 senior agents at a time. This is the only job that isn't commander where the gun on the job is used rather then the one provided via the JOB.
Officer > Both guns kinda blow just use a perma.
Commander > Both are okay

Now lets go over vehicles, Marder being able to challenge the BTR90 while being significantly smaller, faster, AND cheaper by a lot is a balance problem. And the Leopard being MUCH better without CI having a comparable tank to match it is also a balancing issue and a PROBLEM.
This imbalance between factions isn't something new that's been complained about its an on-going issue just being brought to light with the ongoing war pushing the patience levels of those included over the edge.

I can understand why you as a UK player believe the factions to be balanced but I can ensure you they are not.

Just going to say if you lose a BTR-90 in a 1 to 1 against the Marder its a skill issue, The BTR-90 can kill it way faster than the Marder can so you would need to be either mag dumped from behind or have a shit gunner that cant aim.

Also you have M202's and you should use them more CI never use them on the US and seem to be too scared to challenge the tank.

 

[pricetag]

You literally have a better ammo for the BTR-90 which is HEAP rounds? AP rounds would be a nerf.

We do not have HEAP rounds. ap rounds would be an overhall

M202's can kill a tank with a few AT4's and a matador with it and its been buffed recently enough to be cheaper and have 2 M202's (I've never seen US CI call them in for some reason?)

yeah but its just not worth, why would i use that buns warfund when i can just use matadors and a btr 82, needs a overhall

Bomb drones have been buffed to do a good bit of damage to vehicles recently no buff needed

this happened after i made this suggestion, but yeah thats good now

The "mechanic job" is stupid you have 6 CI operatives with repair tools and SOP have 6 repair tools total 4 locked behind CPL and 2 locked behind SGT while you get it as a alpha, If this was added SOP would have to get more repair tools for balancing.

cant even lie this was a cope suggestion, we was at war with goc and they had an abrams and had like 7 people repairing it, so yeah gg

And finally the TB is strong and CI are the only ones that get such a strong reality bender to fight consistently for them as the D-class TB needs to be class F'd and wanting to give themself up, Calling the TB bad means you probably have a skill issue if I was to be blunt.

our TB is not that strong, plus it has longest CD.

Just going to say if you lose a BTR-90 in a 1 to 1 against the Marder its a skill issue, The BTR-90 can kill it way faster than the Marder can so you would need to be either mag dumped from behind or have a shit gunner that cant aim.

the marder can get under the 90 and its js gg from there, also the marder hitbox is a lil bugged on the front too. plus the 90 is slow ash which is why we barely call it in and just use the 82. Just spent 5 min testing the marder its model is insanely bugged

Also you have M202's and you should use them more CI never use them on the US and seem to be too scared to challenge the tank.

not scared to challenge the tank, its just useless when we have matadors and a btr 82, a waste of WF tbh

 

[apple]

a waste of WF tbh

with this mentality, it really shows a lot

marder can get under the 90 and its js gg from there

the marder is slow asf. If you really allow a marder to ram you then well it really is your fault.

our TB is not that strong, plus it has longest CD.

it is REALLY strong twin

yeah but its just not worth, why would i use that buns warfund when i can just use matadors and a btr 82, needs a overhall

you agree that m202s can kill the tank with a few at4s/matadors supporting it. What needs a overhall here? M202s are extremely strong for their price.

 

[pricetag]

with this mentality, it really shows a lot

with the mentality that i know how to use my equipment i dont need a useless item...

the marder is slow asf. If you really allow a marder to ram you then well it really is your fault.

Surface has alot of CQ areas for vec combat if you didnt know, so it happens in like 3 seconds, plus the marder model is super bugged as i said before, u cant dmg it like half the time

it is REALLY strong twin

what exactly is really strong about our TB,

you agree that m202s can kill the tank with a few at4s/matadors supporting it. What needs a overhall here? M202s are extremely strong for their price.

im saying u dont need m202s BECAUSE you can just use matadors,at4s and a 82 which is just better, so M202 is just a waste

 

[kuba]

We do not have HEAP rounds. ap rounds would be an overhall

yeah but its just not worth, why would i use that buns warfund when i can just use matadors and a btr 82, needs a overhall

this happened after i made this suggestion, but yeah thats good now

cant even lie this was a cope suggestion, we was at war with goc and they had an abrams and had like 7 people repairing it, so yeah gg

our TB is not that strong, plus it has longest CD.

the marder can get under the 90 and its js gg from there, also the marder hitbox is a lil bugged on the front too. plus the 90 is slow ash which is why we barely call it in and just use the 82. Just spent 5 min testing the marder its model is insanely bugged

not scared to challenge the tank, its just useless when we have matadors and a btr 82, a waste of WF tbh

ok this shows me that you dont even know what your talking about, The BTR-90 literally has HEAP rounds and the BTR-90 is not slow it is infact way faster than the marder and if you let the marder ram you its a skill issue

M202s are worth calling in it's just you can't use them and never will be able to use them if you never try to use them, On the UK the CI use M202s frequently and take down tanks with them, Stop being so scared to use WF and try learn how to use M202's

 

[pricetag]

ok this shows me that you dont even know what your talking about, The BTR-90 literally has HEAP rounds and the BTR-90 is not slow it is infact way faster than the marder and if you let the marder ram you its a skill issue

M202s are worth calling in it's just you can't use them and never will be able to use them if you never try to use them, On the UK the CI use M202s frequently and take down tanks with them, Stop being so scared to use WF and try learn how to use M202's

Bro UK uses the m202s cause they legit need them, we use our matadors and at4's in a way where we dont even need the M202 warfund because it doesnt offer enough for its price.
the btr 90 does NOT have heap rounds.
"if you let the marder ram you its a skill issue" yeah ig when we turn a corner and theres a marder full speed ramming us we should js move faster then the flash. its happened to the UK many times too so you cant even say nun bout that.

 

[John Inertia]

ok this shows me that you dont even know what your talking about, The BTR-90 literally has HEAP rounds and the BTR-90 is not slow it is infact way faster than the marder and if you let the marder ram you its a skill issue

M202s are worth calling in it's just you can't use them and never will be able to use them if you never try to use them, On the UK the CI use M202s frequently and take down tanks with them, Stop being so scared to use WF and try learn how to use M202's

BTR90 is the same speed as a marder, M202s are shit, and Im pretty sure BTR-90 has HE rounds

 

[kuba]

yeah but its just not worth, why would i use that buns warfund when i can just use matadors and a btr 82, needs a overhall

so complain about the tank being op and then dont use the wf item that counters the tank, Like hello?

 

[Mike Bright]

BTR90 is the same speed as a marder, M202s are shit, and Im pretty sure BTR-90 has HE rounds

BTR 90 may be slow as fuck but it is APHE,the BTR 90 and the marder are incomparable,if you LOSE a 1V1 agaisnt a marder as a 90,i have no words for you,the M202s melt vehicles UK CI use them very goodly but if youre too scared to challenge a tank with the WF item that counters it,its a neat and simple skill issue. Also the marder is built to ram vehicles and flip them,don't know why youre complaining about that.

 

[Yoyo]

BTR 90 may be slow as fuck but it is APHE,the BTR 90 and the marder are incomparable,if you LOSE a 1V1 agaisnt a marder as a 90,i have no words for you,the M202s melt vehicles UK CI use them very goodly but if youre too scared to challenge a tank with the WF item that counters it,its a neat and simple skill issue. Also the marder is built to ram vehicles and flip them,don't know why youre complaining about that.

?? The marder has AP and should instantly beat a BTR 90. This is UK Foundations fault if they dont use their marder correctly? The marder also currently DOES NOT take damage to the front armor and the dev is not home for the week so quite LITERALLY... we cannot kill it unless foundation go stupid mode. We also do not have APHE, we have HE on the 90.

EDIT: I forgot to say, the BTR 90 is a armored personnel carrier, the MARDER is a IFV (INFANTRY FIGHTING VEHICLE) and gets ARMOR penetrating rounds.. it should not, yet it does. Take that into account.

 

[Yoyo]

Quick question,UK CI just instantly destroy marders with a btr 90,the marders good against 82s/Boxers,a BTR 90 should not lose to a marder 'It does not take damage to the front' I think this is a skill issue by you no? as weve experienced multiple times marder dying from front attacks, also 'we cannot kill it unless foundation go stupid mode' I think this is ALSO a skill issue,the marder is a very destroyable WF item if you get infantry support,ramming a 90 to a marder and just expecting a win because its a higher cost WF item is a bit idiotic.

Hey buddy how is it a skill issue? The vehicle is CURRENTLY broken????