12 week MRDM ban appeal and my observations for the admin "Sundowner"

Status
Not open for further replies.

Mikailred

New Member
Nov 14, 2022
2
0
1
Your in-game name: Darkslayer
Your SteamID: STEAM_0:0:27022444
Your steam community link: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198014310616/
Date of ban: 11/13/2022
What is your exact ban reason (shows when you try to connect): MRDM (C) | Stacked Bans (E)
Who banned you: "Sundowner"
Ban length?: 12 weeks
What server were you banned on?: (SCP-RP UK or SCP-RP USA): SCP-RP USA
Link a copy of the in-game rules here (the url): https://www.civilgamers.com/community/threads/scp-rp-rules.2244/
What will you do to stop this from happening again: Not play on the server while "Sundowner" is online
Prior to this, have you ever been warned/kicked/banned? Yes, 4 weeks MRDM
Why should you be unbanned: My ban was unfair and harsh
How can you ensure that you won't break any other rule?: Record my gameplay 24/7, memorize the entire rule handbook
Why do you want to rejoin this server?:
I enjoy the server, it is the only good SCP-RP server.

I was banned for 12 weeks for MRDM during an event. The event took place roughly around 3:30 pm PST - 4:20 pm PST today, November 13th. The goal of the event was the fend off the D-class riot and prevent them from escaping with the C.I. That being said, towards the end of the event I ran to the D-block (As a security officer) and shot into the D-class crowd with my gun. Apparently the event had just ended and I was not allowed to do that. Although in retrospect, I made a terrible decision, but it wasn't without its reasons. During the event it was a blood bath, every D-class was KOS. I didnt know the event had moved towards its end so I was prompted to shoot the D-class on sight as soon as I had entered the D-block. The admin "Sundowner" slapped me with a 12 week ban while being extremely hard to work with. The 12 week ban is because it was a stack ban from another MRDM offence. This leads into another problem of its own. I do not have the clip for how this played out because I was banned before I could secure the link a nearby player had provided for this situation. It can probably be found easily by an admin. The clip should have been created shortly before my ban, which occurred on November 13th, 2022 at "19:21:00" (EST I'm assuming).
I was previously banned for 4 weeks for MRDM by "Sundowner" somewhere on October 11th 2022. I believe the ban for MRDM was not justified as I had only killed one person (Who I thought at the time was C.I. because they were raiding the facility). Apparently this person was an ERT and not C.I., I apologized to the player and "Sundowner" for any inconvenience I had caused. I argued that I should not be banned for MRDM as again, I only killed one person. I had stopped shooting after I killed that player and then quickly died myself at the hands of the other ERT. The clip of that situation can be found here, https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/EoFoMmmXQDKDZ/Tr3RbQFOTT0Q?theater=true
In conclusion, I would like to state this is not a simple appeal request saying "I am sorry, give unban please" With that in mind, I am not saying I did no wrong. I believe the above information I have provided merits an investigation into Sundowner's ability to make proper judgement calls while on duty as an admin. From both my experiences with him in-game while he is an admin on duty, It seems he is unfit to be an admin who can adequately manage the SCP-RP server while keeping the players happy. Everyone makes mistakes, and I was going to just shrug off the first unjust ban I was given by him. But now that I have been given a 12 week ban for a mistake I made during an event, I have decided to shed some light on my experience with "Sundowner." For any players seeing this, I warn you, do not participate in the server while the admin "Sundowner" is online. You WILL get an unfair consequence for an action you may have not even known was unlawful in terms of the server's rules. "Sundowner" likes to give harsh punishments instead of working with the player. He will not consider any words that come out of your mouth during and admin sit; so if you get put in one with him, it is best not to speak.
 
Last edited:
Hello Mikailred,
Now that I see that clip you provided, I now remember who you were, That prior situation you mentioned was a blatant case of MRDM you perpretated with a second individual you were seemingly partnered with,Which the clip clearly shows, But we're not getting into that one. The current ban we are dealing with involved you unloading into a crowd of D-Class in their spawn while they were un-armed, Nobody else was doing so and you began to do so with reckless abandon, I issued the ban due to this.

Thank you, and have a pleasant day.
 

Mikailred

New Member
Nov 14, 2022
2
0
1
A blatant case of MRDM? Let me be sure I understand what MRDM is. It is short for Mass Random Death Match, right? Well this makes absolutely no sense to me as I had only killed that one person. So how does that deserve a MRDM ban? Also, I feel bad for the other player that was with me if he got the same punishment. I did not even know him and we had just met earlier in that play session.
Continuing to the current situation, how is it you are unable to take in account what was taking place at that time? There was a current event that had every other player who was not a D-class shooting them on site. If its possible, I would like for another staff member to look over my situation and give his insight. I was originally going to post this thread in the complaints section but it had been locked at the time.
 
Hello.

After discussing with Sundowner, and reading your original post, you fired into a group of DClass in their spawn. Event or not, this conduct is not acceptable; there is no reason to be killing players as soon as they spawn. Based on this, there is no justifiable reason for me to remove the ban.

In conclusion, I would like to state this is not a simple appeal request saying "I am sorry, give unban please" With that in mind, I am not saying I did no wrong. I believe the above information I have provided merits an investigation into Sundowner's ability to make proper judgement calls while on duty as an admin. From both my experiences with him in-game while he is an admin on duty, It seems he is unfit to be an admin who can adequately manage the SCP-RP server while keeping the players happy. Everyone makes mistakes, and I was going to just shrug off the first unjust ban I was given by him. But now that I have been given a 12 week ban for a mistake I made during an event, I have decided to shed some light on my experience with "Sundowner." For any players seeing this, I warn you, do not participate in the server while the admin "Sundowner" is online. You WILL get an unfair consequence for an action you may have not even known was unlawful in terms of the server's rules. "Sundowner" likes to give harsh punishments instead of working with the player. He will not consider any words that come out of your mouth during and admin sit; so if you get put in one with him, it is best not to speak.
This entire paragraph is just outright unnecessary and has absolutely no bearing on the appeal. To say that staff are unfair for utilizing their discretion, especially when you admit to doing the thing you were banned for, is inappropriate to say the least. Commentary like this serves no purpose but to paint a negative picture of someone else where it simply does not exist.

You may re-appeal this ban in 2 weeks.

Regards,
Hound
 
Status
Not open for further replies.