Denied Adding Weapon Checkers to all ISD jobs

[Second]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Adds the new Weapon Checker swep to the MTF O-1 and MTF A-1 Operative, Enforcement, and Commander jobs

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Yes, but since then certain rulings as well as a whole new Weapon Checker swep have come out.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+ Will allow ISDs to properly strip weapons off of individuals, or check people for weapons.
+ Makes sense in RP, as ISDs handle Internal Security, so it'd make sense that they can take peoples weapons off of people
+ QoL Update for O-1 and A-1, since as is they have to ask a Specialist or Officer to do weapon checking.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- None that I can think of, outside of "something something power imbalance because of weapon checker swep"?

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
With rulings coming out recently surrounding "/me strip weapons" binds, as well as the new weapon checker swep, I think it would be a good idea to add the Weapon Checker to the ISD jobs that don't have it to better their ability to perform at their duties no matter what job they choose to play.

 

["Arachnid"]

+Support
I wish that they'd teach PVTs to LCPL how to weapon check (Its really difficult to check if someone in a jumpsuit is hiding a auger)

 

[RedMann]

gsd cadet (cl1) can but not isd operative (cl4) so real

CL3*

 

[Zen]

E-11 got denied having literally a single role have the weapon checker. Like, right now, no E-11 can weapon check you, and CT denied it as "not necessary".

 

["Arachnid"]

E-11 got denied having literally a single role have the weapon checker. Like, right now, no E-11 can weapon check you, and CT denied it as "not necessary".

Uh ISD aren't E11 (real)
ISD need it to enforce the Legal Codex and defend their VIPs
E11 are guarding a area, if they have a gun that won't change how you interact with them that much

 

[Zen]

Uh ISD aren't E11 (real)
ISD need it to enforce the Legal Codex and defend their VIPs
E11 are guarding a area, if they have a gun that won't change how you interact with them that much

You're so right, let's remove it from all GSD roles.

 

[Niox]

-Support

 

[Second]

E-11 got denied having literally a single role have the weapon checker. Like, right now, no E-11 can weapon check you, and CT denied it as "not necessary".

I will stand by that Nu-7 and E-11 Officer/Commander jobs should also have it, but as I am no longer a part of nu-7 hammer down (sobbing) I don't have the willpower to ruin Mercer's day with the same suggestion for the 10th time (love you @Blackknight95 <3)

 

[Second]

CL3*

cl1....

 

[RedMann]

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cl1....

I mean ISD

 

[Emilia Foddg]

I mean ISD

MRP keycard implementationnnnnnnnn where is youuuuuuu

i want to see those pesky ISD enlisted & NCOs made humble, at CL3 A-1/O-1 clearance

 

[Pupper]

+support

 

[Second]

I mean ISD

3.5, but by technicality they spawn with cl4s and have cl4 knowledge/access (on US), so I just say they cl4 for ease

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

Mfw people expect the Enlisted of the most secretive MTFs to co operate with non ISD roles if there is no NCOs on

+Support

 

[Blixer]

Most likely won’t be accepted because it will remove the need for other roles in the server for those small kind of things, like internal affairs, gensec, ect.

+Support though

 

['Corbin']

+ Support

Would be useful and for a quick weapon check before letting people into ethics

 

[ToasterStrudels]

the biggest D-Class nerf.

 

[Lightsoulist]

Was suggested before and was denied
Might get it on officers only but yeah like

 

[Second]

Was suggested before and was denied
Might get it on officers only but yeah like

Officer already has it, at least COM should get it

Since then they have made a new Weapon Check swep, and I was informed of a ruling surrounding /me strips weapons being powergaming due to said new swep.

 

[Zen]

Officer already has it, at least COM should get it

Since then they have made a new Weapon Check swep, and I was informed of a ruling surrounding /me strips weapons being powergaming due to said new swep.

We've also repeatedly been told it is allowed. It's almost like staff should do an official ruling to clarify it, but they never do.

 

[Niox]

We've also repeatedly been told it is allowed. It's almost like staff should do an official ruling to clarify it, but they never do.

the US and UK servers are basically entirely different at this point, clarifications are made on one side but not the other.

The only time its reliable is when both sides agree to it or its stated in a suggestion