Content Suggestion Allow to bash someone with your Primary Weapon

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AstroHyena

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Allow the ability to bash someone with your main weapon (focusing on Assault Rifles mainly, but could be any weapon that isnt a pistol). When using a button that is assigned to it, it would push the person away a bit while dealing 5 dmg. This can be used for when people are escorting a VIP, interrogations, d classes who are not listening, and if someone refuses to move out the way. And to possibly stun somebody for a second if they are detained (preventing them from breaking out).

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so?

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
More ways to deal with people in a non lethal way
More roleplay! (interros, etc)
Getting people out the way if they are refusing to move

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Possible misuse (would be a staff issue if people are doing it for nothing)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I do believe it would be nice to have this introduced to the server as not only does this allow more roleplay but an additional way to deal with someone rather than having to be like "hey don't do that" while point a gun at them, and of course more non lethal ways to do stuff. I believe most people in the server would enjoy this as in my eyes the only abuse that could happen is the misusing of it. But then again, it can easily be resolved by ic or ooc depending on what it is.
 
+Support

Awesome and cool way to persuade someone with a bit of force to comply with an ID check without shooting a bullet and risking an engagement.

The beating will continue until the C1 concludes.
 
+Support
It could cause fun interactions and would mean situations wouldn't be escalated straight to pointing a weapon at somebody. It could also assist with arrests if it has an interaction with cuffs
-Support If it were to get added it I feel like people would abuse it to a point where it would get very annoying very quickly and also it just isn't really needed
ISD will just arrest people for it
 
Honestly I like the idea.

Right now, your only options are "encouraging" people are aiming at em or straight up shooting them once. Both of which can have less then ideal consequences in tense scenarios.

And even with pistols, Im pretty sure if you whip someone over the head they'll feel it. Maybe just make the knockback like 20% or remove it entirely and Im certain it could work.

Also this would be perfect for bullying low-ranks.
 
-Support
There are a few problems with this.
  1. Pushing someone is a really impactful element to add to the server especially with large drops (watchtower on surface or off the railing in d-block catwalk) which can be annoying.
  2. Pushing someone would most likely count as attacking them, which results in them being able to defend themself. It'd just escalate the situation if you were trying to resolve one in a peaceful manner. (This can be a huge problem if you're escorting)
This would basically just be not used as much as you'd think. MAYBE for interrogation RP or shoving people out of the door, but other than that it wouldn't be used for the reasons you put.
 
-Support
There are a few problems with this.
  1. Pushing someone is a really impactful element to add to the server especially with large drops (watchtower on surface or off the railing in d-block catwalk) which can be annoying.
  2. Pushing someone would most likely count as attacking them, which results in them being able to defend themself. It'd just escalate the situation if you were trying to resolve one in a peaceful manner. (This can be a huge problem if you're escorting)

I fail to see why either of these are negatives?

The falling one is simple, don't stand somewhere you can be pushed off by an enemy.

And the second one is obvious currently, yes hitting someone with your gun is assault - whether it would be RDM to kill for it is different imo but it's just another element to RP (the same as punching someome would be).
 
The falling one is simple, don't stand somewhere you can be pushed off by an enemy.
Say you're a captain sitting on the railing of catwalk and a random cadet decides to just push you off. That's my main reasoning behind it, it'll most likely be abused by minges. You can argue attempted RDM or something alongside that, but you'd already be dead and D-Class most likely has a CL4 and a gun now.
whether it would be RDM to kill for it is different imo but it's just another element to RP (the same as punching someome would be).
This is fair. If you were smacked in the side of a face with a gun you probably wouldn't think first to "fight back", more just to listen to what they say in fear of your life. I was more thinking of an example where, say A-1 are guarding an O5 and they push a guard back, then the guard can pull a gun out and defend themself. But now I'm looking back on this, it doesn't seem very realistic to retaliate at all, so I'll give you that.
 
Say you're a captain sitting on the railing of catwalk and a random cadet decides to just push you off. That's my main reasoning behind it, it'll most likely be abused by minges. You can argue attempted RDM or something alongside that, but you'd already be dead and D-Class most likely has a CL4 and a gun now.
If a person is standing on a railing, the one thing that's meant to stop them from falling off, then they lowkey asked for it, even if done by a minge. Just stand at the catwalk BEHIND the railing, and you can't be pushed off + if you do decide to stand on it and get pushed off, just RP it out or report it OOC if it could be RDM
 
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so?
The pushing element of this reminds me of a prior suggestion asking for a shove SWEP, and I believe this may be denied along the same reasoning: Being able to effectively untraceably RDM someone by pushing them into a closing door/map hazard.

+Support
anyway