Denied Buff Class-D riot

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DanGIllmans

DanGIllmans

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:<br>[Changes to weapons given: AKM is changed to AR-15, AKS-74u is changed to Colt M4 9mm, M1 Garand is changed to DB Shotgun(changed to 500 scrap), sell full body armor in dealer replacing one of the misc. items, add RPK-74M costing 2000 scrap. Add choice to spawn in Showers or Class-D Spawn. Give Scout and Brute prokolot on spawn]<br><br>Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:<br>[If any have been suggested before I doubt mine changes anything.]<br><br>Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):<br>[Class-D have a better fighting chance against combatives using LMGs, Energy Weapons, Snipers. Foundation Combatives have a much more formidible threat to defend against.]<br><br>Possible Negatives of the suggestion:<br>[Slight chance changes will make Class-D overpowered during riots]<br><br>Based on the Positives &amp; Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:<br>[It should be accepted because one thing I've noticed during riots is that our fighting chance is instantly shut down because of combatives using energy weapons and PKMs from 914s. This would help Class-D mains to go and have fun against Foundation personnel. The weapon changes would be an improvement from the slow firing AKM to a decent ROF rifle like the AR-15 and a more better smg like the Colt M4 9mm and we don't have a shotgun yet so that'd be fun. The reason I added the option to spawn in showers is because whenever sweeps occur they instantly go for the showers so they cant get guns and riot and I feel like that's unfair as a whole and we should we giving D-Class a better chance. And the reason for prokolot being added as as spawn in weapon for Scout and Brute classes is because they're special roles so they should have something better than a bayonet. ]
 
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Didnt they JUST buff riots? I don't know about the US server but we aren't allowed to use energy weapons on D-class and very rarely use PKMs and stuff. D-class should escape with stealth, not going guns blazing.

-Support
 
right, so:
- adding prokolov to scout and brute makes NO sense
- a HEAVY weapon, thats buyable, at least make it 2500 scrap, cause it CAN kick ass
- i mean, if the people fighting d-class are using energy weapons, thats just an isd/ethics thing lowkey
- just SLIGHT chance? the moment the scrap trader puts some guns out that shits becoming surface on high pop
- the showers part also makes no sense, cause why would you go showers when theres an active SWEEP, your just gonna get shot down
- well, you CAN make riots fair if everyone buys deagles and plans shit, but thats IF you somehow plan out a rush

-support
 
I think it is far better that we look at opportunities to improve the D-Class gameplay loop that doesn't include rioting. As it is, most people seem to treat D-Class as a license to RDM. When they escape they make zero effort to actually escape the facility, instead opting to disguise themselves and kill whoever they can. For those of us who play combatives - especially on low-pop - this can be very challenging to combat while being considerate of the rules & the D-Class' experience.

I'm all for giving D-Class more power & access to rioting when there are a lot of them and a lot of security to fight them, but it should always be within consideration of how the changes could make them overpowered in low-pop scenarios. The UK server recently lowered the requirements to start a riot, and I think that was a good step forward.
 
-Support From a US D-Class main base guns and Super Riot weapons are fine as is While i think the requirements for a Super Riot are nigh impossible on US and should change (SLIGHTLY) a really nasty Riot can lock RP for up to 2 hours which isn't good for server health adding heavy weapons and other nasties would just turn that 2 hour slog into a 4 hour slog
(Replace Uzi with MP7 though waste of scrap)
 
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Hi @DanGIllmans ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):

We do not believe Class-D riots are currently in need of a buff, and we think they're fairly balanced currently.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​
 
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