Denied Change The Metagaming rules for AOS

[SamPaval]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
[Allows IA or others to call an AOS on somebody without seeing there keycard.]

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[We will be able to actually call AOS on People instead of getting killed and being able to do nothing about it since most rules breakers dont want to show there keycard.

Stops minges from going about and improves everyone's time in the server]

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[Literally none]

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
This should be accepted as there will never be an AOS ever again since again nobody is gonna show there keycard.

Making minges and general rules breakers who can abuse 106 basically be untouchable.

 

[Acey]

+SUPPORT

I always thought IA were able to AOS people from that and use video evidence even with floating names but this rule is just bs. One would believe that IA would have doucmentation for all foundation personnel on site ( Excluding some of course... ) and they would be able to recognise them or pull up their file or something - The only reason people now can 'escape' is because we're limited by player models, if we are to play roles and take inspiration from IRL scenarios your face itself would be recognisable TO ANYONE on site, let alone IA.

I'm definitely against this rule for another non-RP related reason. Minges are common in this server and often cause many issues for other members trying to enjoy their time. There's nothing wrong with goofing off from time to time and being a bit of a prankster but when you're just being an annoying prick you've gotta be punished and honestly getting killed and then respawning and doing it again isn't that big of an issue for the minge and they can just clip and put people in 10 minute sits of constant back and forths and can also get people in trouble IC over pointless shit - but the cherry on top? To get them arrested is to waste 20 minutes of their poor lives, ensuring that they don't repeat anymore ( At least for that session.

 

[SamPaval]

Bumping since it's been 2 weeks and got lost

After a few weeks (to a month honestly) Nobody ever enforced this rule cause everyone found it dumb. SL and SA have been giving IA different info that isnt on rules so pfffff

 

[Change Z. "Somebody"]

If this rule extends to DC -support if not +support

 

[SamPaval]

If this rule extends to DC -support if not +support

Instead of reverting this change they actually nerfed your DC as a sub.

Apparently u cant stand next to the person u disguise as anymore since your taking there name ID card face everything. And seeing 2 of 1 person is suspicious.

 

[Darren]

this is a clear dumb suggestion the consequeneces of allowing this would be immense not to mention balance the RP in ia is finding the ones who broke the COE not just having it handed to them

 

[SamPaval]

this is a clear dumb suggestion the consequeneces of allowing this would be immense not to mention balance the RP in ia is finding the ones who broke the COE not just having it handed to them

darren.
Litterly everyone like usally disagrees with u.
this rule does nothing to promote RP and just protects SCP abusers.

another goofy take like always

 

['Blue']

-Support
This just throws rp out the door

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

-support

as others have said this would mean no rp, if you need backup then ASK- iirc IA is the highest force in the site, higher than MTF, if you need somebody to put a gun on a suspect so you can ID check or arrest them you can ask and they WILL help you:

/c "need backup at nonspec LCZ possible disguised d-class/deepcover"

nearby e11 who's bored out of his mind comes from the checkpoint

upon seeing this the poi is gonna give you their ID and go on their merry way or run away screaming and crying while shooting you
panic buttons are allowed (as much as some people dont like them) so you can always have one of these set up to say something like "PANIC BUTTON CHECK HEADCAM ASAP"

 

[SamPaval]

-support

as others have said this would mean no rp, if you need backup then ASK- iirc IA is the highest force in the site, higher than MTF, if you need somebody to put a gun on a suspect so you can ID check or arrest them you can ask and they WILL help you:

/c "need backup at nonspec LCZ possible disguised d-class/deepcover"

nearby e11 who's bored out of his mind comes from the checkpoint

upon seeing this the poi is gonna give you their ID and go on their merry way or run away screaming and crying while shooting you
panic buttons are allowed (as much as some people dont like them) so you can always have one of these set up to say something like "PANIC BUTTON CHECK HEADCAM ASAP"

This is just to put AOS on them.

Not for checking DCs.

So if somebody was doing bad and IA lost them we cant put AOS out. In what way does that support RP?

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

This is just to put AOS on them.

"suspicious gensec/possible disguised person heading towards lcz nonspecific, id check or arrest"
You don't need the name to call for help lol

 

[SamPaval]

"suspicious gensec/possible disguised person heading towards lcz nonspecific, id check or arrest"
You don't need the name to call for help lol

Takes 106 says it was injected. What then? Please explain

 

[Deleted member 4984]

+Support

When the idea of IA is to deny rule breaking and prevent causing unfun for other players its stupid to give them limitations, such as they cannot arrest someone without seeing their keycard. For those saying that this is against RP, you can always think of it as remembering someones face, after all the foundation base is very small you are bound to know whos who

 

[Darren]

bro its a serious rp server you need to rp it out PROPERLY you cant just ask for permission to make this a exception to metagaming IA is supposed to be invesitagtions its where its rp is at however you seem to not understand

 

[SamPaval]

bro its a serious rp server you need to rp it out PROPERLY you cant just ask for permission to make this a exception to metagaming IA is supposed to be invesitagtions its where its rp is at however you seem to not understand

It protects SCP abusers. Idk why U dont understand about that

Guy breaks FLC.

ia chases him

Takes 106

Says it was injected

Gets off Scot free

 

[Free "Spirit"]

this is a clear dumb suggestion the consequeneces of allowing this would be immense not to mention balance the RP in ia is finding the ones who broke the COE not just having it handed to them

as this guy said this suggestion is made just to make easier arrests i always thought of IA as detectives trying to find unethical people instead of having certain rules voided so they dont have to give any effort at all

-SUPPORT

 

[Free "Spirit"]

-support

as others have said this would mean no rp, if you need backup then ASK- iirc IA is the highest force in the site, higher than MTF, if you need somebody to put a gun on a suspect so you can ID check or arrest them you can ask and they WILL help you:

/c "need backup at nonspec LCZ possible disguised d-class/deepcover"

nearby e11 who's bored out of his mind comes from the checkpoint

upon seeing this the poi is gonna give you their ID and go on their merry way or run away screaming and crying while shooting you
panic buttons are allowed (as much as some people dont like them) so you can always have one of these set up to say something like "PANIC BUTTON CHECK HEADCAM ASAP"

Also as this guy said

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

Takes 106 says it was injected. What then? Please explain

has nothing to do with the suggestion you're asking for- if they have footage, let them on their way. if they don't have footage they can't prove their innocence and are sentenced

 

[Insurgent oreo]

- support
FearRP exists for ID checking.

 

[SamPaval]

@Yeke Can u lock this until decision is made, I made this in FEBURAY

 

[Max Henry]

+Support
I could of sworn I already supported this but I cannot find a comment from me, Might be a bug though so, sorry If I double support.