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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
The containment borders that prevent an SCP from leaving when not breached should leave a big enough gap that humans can get in past the SCP in the cell, and they physically cannot be in the doorway enough to bodyblock them. This mainly applies to HCZ non-spec cells, but may apply elsewhere if this is happening.
E.g. the HCZ non-spec cells allow the SCPs to go a little bit out of their cell door - this should be effectively inverted, with there being a gap inside of their cell door that they cannot enter, so that containment units can get in to attack the breacher SCP without the contained SCP possibly blocking it.
This would apply to all immortal SCPs, which aren't allowed to bodyblock by server rules anyway (e.g. 082). It may also apply to other SCPs, if they also aren't supposed to be bodyblocking when contained. I personally believe this change should be applied to all containment blockers, as my understanding is that an SCP's health is reset when it gets breached, so they can just sit in the door and not have to worry about any adverse affects of being shot at.
The existing setup with the blocker extending shortly out of the cell also doesn't really make sense, and can cause SCPs and others to become trapped if e.g. 082 is contained but outside of its cell door on the outside side of the door (the door can't open no matter 082's position, as the containment blocker stops it from moving out of the way of the door, so it can't open and it can't get back into the cell, nor can anyone inside get out).
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I have made a previous suggestion here that included this one, but that post included two suggestions (my bad) and the entire post was denied with a reason that seems to suggest it was entirely based on the other suggestion.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Enforces existing server rules around bodyblocking
- Means that moderators don't need to get involved every other time an SCP tries to breach another in HCZ non-spec
- Prevents an additional existing problem that basically never happens anyway
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- A bit of time to reconfigure the borders (not sure how complicated that is)
- If there's a specific good reason for the blockers to allow them in the doorway in the first place, this would end that
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It would prevent a common bodyblocking issue that is already against the server rules. Pretty much every time I see an SCP attempt to breach another SCP in HCZ non-spec, we run into the issue of the contained SCP constantly bodyblocking, or deliberately getting in the way and then attacking us because "we attacked them first" even though they deliberately put themselves in harm's way. Pretty much every time there's a breach attempt there, I end up having to call a sit, and most of the time it doesn't get picked up until it's too late.
The containment borders that prevent an SCP from leaving when not breached should leave a big enough gap that humans can get in past the SCP in the cell, and they physically cannot be in the doorway enough to bodyblock them. This mainly applies to HCZ non-spec cells, but may apply elsewhere if this is happening.
E.g. the HCZ non-spec cells allow the SCPs to go a little bit out of their cell door - this should be effectively inverted, with there being a gap inside of their cell door that they cannot enter, so that containment units can get in to attack the breacher SCP without the contained SCP possibly blocking it.
This would apply to all immortal SCPs, which aren't allowed to bodyblock by server rules anyway (e.g. 082). It may also apply to other SCPs, if they also aren't supposed to be bodyblocking when contained. I personally believe this change should be applied to all containment blockers, as my understanding is that an SCP's health is reset when it gets breached, so they can just sit in the door and not have to worry about any adverse affects of being shot at.
The existing setup with the blocker extending shortly out of the cell also doesn't really make sense, and can cause SCPs and others to become trapped if e.g. 082 is contained but outside of its cell door on the outside side of the door (the door can't open no matter 082's position, as the containment blocker stops it from moving out of the way of the door, so it can't open and it can't get back into the cell, nor can anyone inside get out).
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I have made a previous suggestion here that included this one, but that post included two suggestions (my bad) and the entire post was denied with a reason that seems to suggest it was entirely based on the other suggestion.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Enforces existing server rules around bodyblocking
- Means that moderators don't need to get involved every other time an SCP tries to breach another in HCZ non-spec
- Prevents an additional existing problem that basically never happens anyway
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- A bit of time to reconfigure the borders (not sure how complicated that is)
- If there's a specific good reason for the blockers to allow them in the doorway in the first place, this would end that
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It would prevent a common bodyblocking issue that is already against the server rules. Pretty much every time I see an SCP attempt to breach another SCP in HCZ non-spec, we run into the issue of the contained SCP constantly bodyblocking, or deliberately getting in the way and then attacking us because "we attacked them first" even though they deliberately put themselves in harm's way. Pretty much every time there's a breach attempt there, I end up having to call a sit, and most of the time it doesn't get picked up until it's too late.
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