Rule Suggestion Disallowing Specialized Panic Buttons

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RedMann

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:

This Suggestion would add a rule clarification or addition that would classify specialized panic buttons as failrp or create a rule disallowing them, i should preface, when i say specialized panic buttons, i mean ones that call out a particular group, person or faction in the contents of the panic button

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:

Not to my knowledge

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):

The positives of this suggestion stem from both IC and OOC, ICly, kidnapping or attacking fellow foundation members for whatever reason becomes borderline impossible as the entire site can be made aware of "Nu7 hostile" and knows to immediately storm off to Nu7 bunks, this removes a large amount of potential RP to be found in investigating, questioning and confronting a kidnapper or department doing shady actions, OOCly, it makes zero sense for an individual to have a specialized panic button on a person/department/faction, panic buttons should be a universal distress call and having a whole host of them is taking the cake, especially for foundation staff to have panic buttons on fellow departments, eg being plenty of people have ISD based panic buttons calling out the likes of "Being kidnapped by O-1"

TLDR:
It would better RP as investigations, questioning and confrontations of supposed attackers and kidnappers doesnt get skipped
It does not make sense for foundation staff who work together to have panic buttons calling each other out

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:

I know ISD frequently use panic buttons against one another in their own comms channels, that makes more sense than other departments but apart from that i dont see any negatives

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:

Based off the positives and negatives, i think this suggestion should be accepted on the basis that foundation staff having hand tailored panic buttons against one another simply does not make sense, i also think that it can be detrimental to small RP instigations and scenarios that end up voided due to some random MTF or DPT member having a specific ISD hostile panic button or GSD having a hostile IA panic button etc, as far as panic buttons based off individuals go, its general poor conduct which can be dealt with IC but still pushes the boundary of what makes sense
 

James "Wontolla" Mellow

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Even if this makes no sense in Roleplay, it would be dumb to discriminate against a part of the player base, as noted in Zen's argument. Not everyone has a microphone, and, as such, the possibility to hastily call out what's going on before going dark. Disallowing this would put a part of the player base at a disadvantage.

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Niox

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Still if there is no reason in RP to make pannic button saying "O1 kidnapping me" that should be failRP. Do you think foundation stuff will really randomly make these buttons ?
did you read what he said correctly

Reasoning is that “Oh ISD keeps kidnapping random guys, geez I wouldn’t want to end up like them, let me make a panic button just in case they come for me”.

The RP reason is paranoia.
 

Jonas Enry

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I argue these binds can still be used if there is some RP behind it.
E.g. Tensions between O-1 and E-11, I'd Expect E-11 to possibly make "O-1 kidnap" panic buttons.

However I do agree with disallowing specialised panic binds with no RP backing. No more Tech Experts spamming "O-1 Kidnaping!!"
What this guy said like if we know certain people may be hostile towards us we can make specialised binds in an rp setting like with the recent e-11 vs ISD war I would make sense to have a panic being kidnapped by ISD bind as both sides were escalating tensions
 

Naffen

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Could always be dealt with ICly, lot of these binds make no sense, like publicly calling out Internal Security are kidnapping me in cl1 comms as Cl4 makes no sense.
Some RP reasons for people having these are kind of valid, but it's very case by case, and this could just be dealt with ICly
 
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Grover

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did you read what he said correctly

Reasoning is that “Oh ISD keeps kidnapping random guys, geez I wouldn’t want to end up like them, let me make a panic button just in case they come for me”.

The RP reason is paranoia.
I did read it.

Imo its bad reason because if they know that ISD have no reason to kiddnap them they will not do it. In RP ISD nid never randomly kiddpaping. + if they are scared that someone will kiddnap them they can use normal pannic button.
 

Niox

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In RP ISD nid never randomly kiddpaping. + if they are scared that someone will kiddnap them they can use normal pannic button.
ISD kidnap so many people, and half the time they don’t know why.

Why would you use a normal panic button when you can specify it more? There is no reason just to go “oh ISD might kidnap me let’s make a panic button that doesn’t specify that all!”
 

Grover

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ISD kidnap so many people, and half the time they don’t know why.

Why would you use a normal panic button when you can specify it more? There is no reason just to go “oh ISD might kidnap me let’s make a panic button that doesn’t specify that all!”
Thats why is here the suggestion to avoid this pannic buttons just because they think they will be kiddnaped only because they saw someone being kiddnaped.
 

Bill Nye The Guy

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+SUPPORT


/C3 KIDNAPEPD BY ALPHA 1 "RED RIGHT HAND" WHO ARE BEING COMMANDED BY O5-1 "THE SOVEREIGN" TO KIDNAP ME AND TAKE ME TO THE ALPHA WARHEAD CONTROL CENTRE (A NUCLEAR WARHEAD STORED IN FLOOR 3 WHERE THE O5 COUNCIL IS HOUSED WHOSE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO DESTROY THE SITE AND EVERYBODY INSIDE IN CASE OF EMERGENCY) TO SAMPLE SCP 008 AND DELIVER IT TO DEEP RESEARCH 5 ???
 

Niox

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+SUPPORT


/C3 KIDNAPEPD BY ALPHA 1 "RED RIGHT HAND" WHO ARE BEING COMMANDED BY O5-1 "THE SOVEREIGN" TO KIDNAP ME AND TAKE ME TO THE ALPHA WARHEAD CONTROL CENTRE (A NUCLEAR WARHEAD STORED IN FLOOR 3 WHERE THE O5 COUNCIL IS HOUSED WHOSE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO DESTROY THE SITE AND EVERYBODY INSIDE IN CASE OF EMERGENCY) TO SAMPLE SCP 008 AND DELIVER IT TO DEEP RESEARCH 5 ???
i can confirm this