Partially Accepted Give Rangers the Interrogation Tool and a Field Kit!

[YandereMuffin]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Places the "Interrogate Tool" and "Field Kit" (3 uses with heal / bandage).

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I believe there was a prior one in regards to the Interrogate tool, although I cannot find it as I am bad.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Rangers can more properly ID people within the GoIs, instead of just being lied to about their names (more ranger RP)
- Rangers can save peoples lives, whether it be for an arrest or just to save a person (medical ranger RP)

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Rangers would have freer access to enter the certain bases, and some people may misuse this for bad reasons

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Overall, this would increase the possibilities with Ranger RP without needing any dev work (I think, I dunno how adding weapons to jobs work). It would stop the many times people force bleed out while being arrested on surface, and would generally allow rangers to be a slight bit more of a threat to the GoIs of the region (which could create RP - from arresting RP, to just ranger & GOI diplomatic RP, to medical RP, and document RP).

I did have a negative, that rangers would have more access to cards therefore access to bases, but honestly I don't think that would even be that bad - staff already deal with rangers entering illegally, and (at least on UK) rangers almost never enter bases without RP reasons.

All that be said, I think it would be cool for Rangers to have these items and would enhance my Ranger RP.

 

[Kito]

-Support. (Interrogation Tool)
Why would Rangers try to ID someone from the Military, or UN? They are government officials, with protections(to an extent), so if a Ranger were to arrest an Nu-7 they would then contact the Military Police for the base, and for the UN they would contact a representative of the UN. Chaos is the only faction I'd say Rangers would need to ID, but then again why would a terrorist run around with their ID?

No matter the context, this just allows Rangers to steal a keycard to break into a base or info breach, neither of which Rangers would do realistically speaking since both endanger the lives of the citizens they protect. Even corruption RP makes no sense with this, since they can't really profit from info breaching or breaking into the UN, Foundation, or CI bases.

+Support. (Field Kit)
Rangers don't get access to a dispenser(I don't think), so can't dispense medical kits, makes sense for them to spawn with it, especially if they plan on getting into fights with terrorists and need medical treatment.

 

[Joris Kilotoviz/London]

+Support for Field Kit: Surface Medics barley exist, which would be (and is) a peristant issue for Rangers.

-Support for Interro Tool: I feel as though this could be easily abused. Especially for an unwhitelisted job

 

[Knight]

Aren't we really hesitant to give out the interro tool for good reasons? (it took UK IA CL4 like a literal year of fighting with content team and SL to get agents to have interro tool)

We had problems with ranger minging before, this'd exascerbate the problem a few thousand times if a Ranger can just randomly arrest someone in the DMZ and interrogate tool them for 'ID documents' and end up immediately infoleaking SCP CL3 Nu7 SPC "johnson" to the entire department.

I agree on the field kit, though. Healing on surface that doesn't come from the GOC or Foundation is next to none.

They can already infoleak with just looking at the id when looking at them open the front gate

 

[Vizoplez]

They can already infoleak with just looking at the id when looking at them open the front gate

Not really; it's against our infoleak rules to do that (low effort/shitpost/troll infoleaking). I've gotten Rangers warned before as GOC/F for doing this without good reason; and almost warned for doing it via binocs.

Low effort (and arguably low roleplay) infobreaches like that are iffy and IMHO part of why surfaceRP cratered so hard on UK; parawatch would be infoleaking 008 every five minutes based on some vague document that was 'technically' allowed, Rangers would start a militia, cycle would repeat. Back when Bob Gustav was in their prime, we had a surface war like every 4 days.

That's why a lot of people (especially UK) can see how abusable this is.

 

[Aithaed]

Suggestion Partially Approved​

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Hi Muffin, Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to partially accept your suggestion for the following reasons.

We will move forward with adding the Interrogate tool to the Ranger jobs. However, we will not be adding the Field Kit to said roles. It would cause the job to be overly combative in contrast to the role's intended function while other sources of medical attention are available if needed.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as partially accepted.​