Denied GOC Cartographer/ AA

[TheKupKake]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:

1: Add: Mosberg 500 and MPX/MP9 to the GOC Cartographer + a Scranton
2: Change: GOC Medic/Vector (recoil is way to much and does almost no dmg
3: Change: GOC AA replace the Sticky Grenade With thermals NVG/Scrables (kinda like ERT and what they have) and replace the Matador with a grenade launcher.
3: Remove: Sticky grenade from GOC AA

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:

Not that i know of (maybe the AA but not the other stuff)

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):

1: Since the Cartographer is now a combative for GOC/CI and his whole idea being a interdimensional traveler, he should be armed for close quarters combat (if needs be) so a shot gun/SMG seems like the most perfect choice. (plus he has no gun not even a pistol)

2: For the Vector is known all through out GOC's time the Medic job has been the least used all because of the vector being a heavily underpowered gun with high recoil, low Rate of fire, low ammo count and almost 2 mags to kill someone around 10 m away.

3: Now to the AA, having a Gernade launcher for GOC would be amazing since having the abilty to use it both as SCP AA and a substitute for the matador, giving GOC a fighting chance since they are way smaller than Foundation or CI. but in regards to the thermals NVG/Scrables getting them as part of AA would be nice since it would be a AA version of NVGs that would help in foundation for QRF or Surface combat.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:

1: It might be a little to overpowering when it comes to the dimension but again he is totally relent on being in his dimensions that need a thaumatologist with him to be able to buy the bridge gate ways for him.

2: Litrally nothing. this has been a big issue all through out the vectors history

3: The sticky Grenades is almost never used by GOC when given the choice, for the thermals people might be able to see you from longer ranges based of the heat signatures, but we are in snowy Canada and having something to pick up heat readings just make sense. Sure its gives GOC an upper hand but again this is AA its ment to be strong since you can get it once every 30 mins (ish)

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:

GOC as a faction should be a power balancer for Foundation and CI having this added would allow GOC the ability to play that role as a power house.

for the cartographer he is a combative so he needs a way to help out in raids/ QRFs rather than just be the driver

(Edit 1: 9/4/2024 Change Thermals for NVG/Scrables (kinda like ERT and what they have))

 

[Bismarck]

+ Support
- Give GOC Portal Man at least the Mossberg 500.
- Give GOC Medic a better gun, because the Vector is really BAD

+/- Support for AA changes.
- Cant say anything to either the Grenade Launcher or the Thermals
- Maybe a bit worst Version of the ERT NVGS/Scamblers, maybe make them just have a longer "Battery" Life so you can look longer at for example 096. But dont make them infinite, as this could be a bit OP in my opinion.

 

[Starling6]

Hello it is me coming in from Uluru here to say that this is not a very good way of having a discussion. GOC is in no way worse than CI for the factions equipment. GOC is not a massive wave of Meat like the CI and NU7 Instead you should be using force projection and good quality RP to strong arm the bigger factions. your Equipment should show this. Strike team is batshit insane. You have the god damn master chief now that can slap half the SCP's around. I think your issue with the faction may be a one with tactics and planning. If you are taking head on fights with Nu-7 and CI then you clearly have screwed up and should be slapped across the face with their numbers and equipment.

damn pebble had to come back

anyways -soup for everything but changing medic gun

 

[Mr Apple]

-Support 3 and 4
+support 1 and 2

 

[Snake]

Suggestion Denied

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Hi @TheKupKake ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

1. We believe that the cartographer should be more science and research focused even if he is combative so there is no need for a stronger weapon.
2. The UNGOC medics weapon is in the right place at the moment and would not need a buff/change
3. Removing the sticky grenade in place of NVG/Scrambles would be unnecessary since UNGOC already have access to both and use them less frequently than other factions.
4. A grenade launcher would be too unbalanced for UNGOC to have quick and easy access to.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​