Network Leadership required Hang up MRP until Ventz and NL has time to care for it.

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First and foremost don't just Accept/Deny this with no actual affirmation or confirmation to the Military Roleplay community that you can commit yourselves to them and prove that you can dedicate resources to them. Server Leadership, please add the Network Leadership tag as it's not an option for me and I'll remove the [ ] text. Thanks <3

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:

Closes the Military Roleplay servers until Network Leadership have the availability, dedication and motivation to care for the server. I'm gonna be as detailed as I can purely because I know the whole narrative of 'oh its just old players wanting the server closed'.

Right now, as respectfully as I can put it yes I know MRP doesn't make money however the money MRP does make is literally just Server Leadership, High Command, Commissioned Officers and basically just players lining Ventz pocket with 0 return for Military Roleplay. I don't quite think you realise how damaged the relations are between SCP an MRP purely out of spite and jealousy over the care and commitment that Network Leadership and Ventz put into them comparitively.

You have players that have been around for years, a server that's been strong for half a decade coming this August yet receive no attention. Some fun stats.
We'll keep it recent.
In the last 12 months, Ventz has sent 5 messages to the entirety of the MRP Discord. One of these was a Sale announcement, the other was a single changelog for a Cross Network fix for TS3 Donator Channels of which @Jacub did anyways.
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Compare this to the mind blowing nearly 1000 messages he's sent in the last 12 months to SCP (where this is only out of the channels I can actually see).
It's not fair comparing Changelogs however I will mention them. Since 2025 started, SCP has 5x the amount of Changelogs that MRP has.

I don't think it's fair on the players, your current server leadership team and your current staff team to be as lob sided to one server. Yes it makes money, however even when CC and DarkRP had their 16.0 reworks or whatever it was, you still cared. Why is MRP any different? Are you embarrased? Are you stuck for ideas despite the fact there's nearly 100 unfinished issues on the gitlabs, some going nearly 4 years old? Content meant for MRP, on the tracker for MONTHS added to SCP before MRP despite the fact that it fits the narrative for MRP more? This isn't cope, the whole VNPCs was talked about 3 years ago or so. Even longer than that, the argument that there's "Nothing to do in peacetime" just completely gets undermined when your Network Leadership reply "There's nothing we can add", just to then go and add NPCs and all this other content to SCP. This would have fixed peacetimes, random triggering convoys both sides can attack, random helicopters crashing etc. This was ALL on the gitlabs, not new ideas or anything, just to then be insulted and for current content that SCP doesn't lack of "CI AI Operatives"?

I want to reiterate, we do NOT care for the amount of content that SCP gets. We respect the fact that it makes a fuck tonne of money and in a business, that's what you chase - we're not arguing that. But there's 0 community engagement from the Owner of the server, 0 engagement from Owner to Sever Leadership. This isn't a new concept, I think you've got too comfortable with Server Leadership being competent enough to run the communtiy for you and coming up with excuses to push the blame onto things such as too much dev time and resources, we ran out of ideas etc.

Civil Gamers swapped the name granted becuase it opened as an LLC however you can't claim you're a Network when you run one server whilst Auburn, Server Leadership and HC carry the weight of the other. Exams ended, the servers still dead. Pull your fingers out, accept responsibility and take pride knowing you still have a community full of commited people that have been here for years and that are willing to take a chance on you trying for MRP again. CC and DarkRP had nowhere near the level of commitment that MRP players have for the server.

Either accept responsibility, take the initiative to help out MRP and to engage with the players as though you're not embarrased of them and that they're actually members of your community or stop kicking the dead horse, stop making server leadership and these amazing high command members and commissioned officers run your server with no goals to help them out and close the server.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
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You have 41 people and 0 people disagreeing that you should at least put the server on hold and acknowledge what's going on. It's not fair on them.



Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
People will have to either wait to resume playing MRP or live with the fact that it's over for MRP.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:

It's what the players want. The narrative of 'old players wanting the server shut down' when you have High Command new and old +supporting what I wrote, old Super Admins and Senior Admins coming together, current staff members, current colonels. You've lost the support of the server that kick started SCP. Gain it back please, I like MRP and truthfully I don't want it to shut down. I've got lots of great memories, but it needs dealing with.


Finally, for the people coming across reading this from SCP Players POV.


I'm not asking that we take your allocation of resources and development time or anything like that. But you need to see from the MRP point of view, we don't hate or dislike you guys or anything. We're just simply jealous of the community engagement you guys receive from the owner and the overall way we're treated. There's been 0 acknowledgement from Ventz, 0 discussion with current SL other than 1x message that was put out (nothing happened after that). Messages from current Server Leadership have gone over head saying that they NEED help and from current High Command (equivelant of probably your O-1 and CI Leaders) from BOTH sides jointly asking for help just for it to gone amiss.



Feel free to leave your opinions below, thanks for reading this all and I genuinely hope for the best outcome in that we get some love from Ventz.
Thanks.
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Is it that hard for MRP to get some love? The MRP community has shown time and time again that they will hop on the server regardless of the minimal updates we get. However everything has a limit and its seriously unacceptable that MRP has now gone into begging mode for something to happen. Please give MRP some love and give the community another chance before you shut it down Mr. Ventz (y)
 
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The server being up right now does nothing but drain what little people have left currently for MRP, we all love it but weve just been left to die slowly for the past 2 years, probably longer thats just how long ive played. I want nothing more than to experience a healthy server seeing support, updates and care but ive never got to see that. The idea of an MRP server such as this one is similar to live service games which receive constant support and updates and yet were a live service game which has received little to nothing for such a long period of time. Please just listen to this suggestion so the community doesnt die and one day we might have something to come back to.
 
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MRP has been neglected and no one is able to deny that. We've been promised so many updates, e.g. when Vietnam map released there was a whole list with things they wanted to push into the update aswell. Almost none of it got pushed through.
Where is fishing, where is gambling, where is VNPC, where are all the other updates promised?

I get that Site-9 is taking up a fuck ton of devwork but you've neglecting a server with a dedicated playerbase so much that almost everyone fucked off because of it. Its like building a house with a rotten foundation.

If its any consolation the scp tracker has around 200 tickets related to suggestions not done and an even higher number for bugs some stuff is just never done
Just want to mention this comment, its not even about the amount of tickets, its about the amount of tickets that get completed. MRP's last big update must've been the release of the Vietnam map (Big thanks to @Harry 🔥) and the Infantry rework (which isn't that big of an update imo).


As Jack said, give MRP some love now or close it untill you can give it some.
 
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If its any consolation the scp tracker has around 200 tickets related to suggestions not done and an even higher number for bugs some stuff is just never done

This is I'm sorry just a really dumb comment, sure you guys have 200 tickets but you also have:

-All the devs working on your server
-A complete rework with site 9 coming in the future

We get drinking noises.

The problem is that Ventz, NL and SL for some ungodly reason since Cloak left, a guy who actually gave a shit and regularly did big updates, pushed all of the content ideas for MRP onto the player base. So whilst they come up with things to add to SCP its on the MRP player base to figure out what big content should be added, half the time they're ignored and just get denied because it takes dev time. I don't remember the last time I saw anybody in NL except Auburn actually play MRP to see what can be improved. The fact that there is 4 CS and only 1 has gave a shit about MRP or even tried to help alone is shocking. You guys literally have all of NL trying to constantly improve your server whilst MRP gets no resources, no time and no help.

Ventz actually show up and try to give a shit about your server for once it shouldn't be up to everybody else to run it.
 
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I want to share my perspective on this topic as former SL & ET Leader :

-We were demanded to push big map change events with the little to no maps that we had because we were forbidden to get another map from the workshop due to it being too much of a hassle to test in such a short notice. Because of that, there was a constant fear in the GM team to not reuse a map too much because of what would the playerbase think and also because some maps were better optimised and better viewed than others. With Vietnam now transformed into a main rotation map (@Harry big ups to you lad, you were actually listening to the suggestions and putting heart and soul into what you were doing), that means one more map that has to be removed from this cursed "event rotation"

-There was the "Serious RP" enforcement that really got the playerbase separated when it got implemented. In a server where the main focus is TDM, trying to enforce Serious RP in a period of 1h and 45mins or whatever was the peacetime period just to have it go down the drain in the Pre-War / War state is really not a good idea. You have an old playerbase that is used to joking around with higher / lower ranks, that is used to do what they can to actually enjoy staying during peacetime so the playercount for the war doesn't drop, while also doing FOB work and Tryouts for new players to actually have a chance to play. Enforcing them to do Serios RP at that point is literally turning them into a puppet show for the new players.

-I know for a fact I'm gonna bring a lot of heat with this question but this is literally a concern that I have noticed for a long time : How many of the NL that have been on this community have showed some interest in MRP? And how many NL have been chosen from MRP? The current CS team is fully formed from ex SCP SL members. The only people who were chosen from MRP as of currently were Chad Powers and Doofy, that's it. The only SCP NL that showed interest in MRP was Yeke. That counts only 3 people... Now how many NL have we had in the past?

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If its any consolation the scp tracker has around 200 tickets related to suggestions not done and an even higher number for bugs some stuff is just never done
I have nothing against SCP nor the SCP playerbase, I have a problem with the amount of involvement in both the servers, one being "treated" better than the other. Literally there is a meme going around about this
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And This

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The update and Dev support has got to a point where Content team was just adding and adding and adding suggestions or bugs to the point where everyone was pinging devs left and right.

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i have a feeling that if its shut it wont ever come back online as they literally dont care about mrp and it shows, the clear disregard of the server is shocking, even when the players spiked up to around 60 a day content was barely pushed to mrp. cant really call yourself a network either if its just scprp :ROFLMAO:
 

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This is I'm sorry just a really dumb comment, sure you guys have 200 tickets but you also have:

-All the devs working on your server
-A complete rework with site 9 coming in the future
He was just writing a little joke.
We also dont have all the devs working on Site-65s, and Site-9 is a completely new server which has nothing to do with Site-65, but I get your frustration.
 
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There is no point in forcing HC and SL to try deal with and take responsibility in a situation where they can’t make a significant impact. MRP has consistently struggled and even prior to the timeline mentioned of last year and such the dev support for MRP mainly came from Chad who was able to help out with developing and managing issues relating to that a lot as Super Admin then Community Supervisor + Dev and since then it’s assistance has been a bit on and off with the existing NL team
 
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Tank you Jack for standing up for the Community

It’s sad to see this loved community die because of the lack of support

Jack questioned the lack of money coming from MRP, of course the server makes no money , because there is nothing to spend your money on anymore, buy permawepons ? For what ? Most of them are shit, just buy the meta and that’s all.

No new weapons, no new tools to help us do things in peacetime, no new FOB structures,we have been building the same structures on FOBs for years ( I have no imagination left to build FOBs, back then when they were new, me and the other peol in my regiment were actually trying to build the best FOBs and FOB building was actually fun and not a drag, this can be easily fixed if you guys add some new structures and give more diversity on them)

New players retention is 0, why ?

Because everyone of the curent playerbase is burned off mrp and doing the same shit for ages with no support from NL in getting new things.

The infantry rework

Was an ok ideea in my eyes but very poorly and very late executed, for this to work you needed people from SHA and ISAF to train them and show everything that the server offers which eventually burned off the already low numbers those regiments had and almost killed them.

In a point of view it looks like everything done in the last 2 years helped more to kill the comunity rather than reviving it.

Updates and Maps

Even tho I don’t like some of the new updates or maps, I want to thank everyone that worked on them for trying to help MRP a little bit.

Ngl since Cloak left MRP started going downhill, even tho from time to time we were getting some attention from the new NL, in time it just became less and less until we received Nothing.

Sad to see all of the MRP players forgotten.

MRP is a missed opportunity for CN to make one of the best servers in GMOD and make money alongside.

If only new things would have been added from time to time, the players would have been kept interested in MRP and some money would have been made but with focused and hyped players in ranks the player retention would have increased which is where the big money wold have come from, because new players have nothing and if they want cool things they need to buy them, donator ranks, perma weapons, Vpoints, gun skins.


- Rest in Peace MRP
 
He was just writing a little joke.
We also dont have all the devs working on Site-65s, and Site-9 is a completely new server which has nothing to do with Site-65, but I get your frustration.
If it was a joke and I didn't pick it up I apologise but it was in no way worded like one. And sure you guys might not have every dev but the last dev change log for mrp was a month ago and scps last dev change log was today.
 
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I want to share my perspective on this topic as former SL & ET Leader :

-We were demanded to push big map change events with the little to no maps that we had because we were forbidden to get another map from the workshop due to it being too much of a hassle to test in such a short notice. Because of that, there was a constant fear in the GM team to not reuse a map too much because of what would the playerbase think and also because some maps were better optimised and better viewed than others. With Vietnam now transformed into a main rotation map (@Harry big ups to you lad, you were actually listening to the suggestions and putting heart and soul into what you were doing), that means one more map that has to be removed from this cursed "event rotation"

-There was the "Serious RP" enforcement that really got the playerbase separated when it got implemented. In a server where the main focus is TDM, trying to enforce Serious RP in a period of 1h and 45mins or whatever was the peacetime period just to have it go down the drain in the Pre-War / War state is really not a good idea. You have an old playerbase that is used to joking around with higher / lower ranks, that is used to do what they can to actually enjoy staying during peacetime so the playercount for the war doesn't drop, while also doing FOB work and Tryouts for new players to actually have a chance to play. Enforcing them to do Serios RP at that point is literally turning them into a puppet show for the new players.

-I know for a fact I'm gonna bring a lot of heat with this question but this is literally a concern that I have noticed for a long time : How many of the NL that have been on this community have showed some interest in MRP? And how many NL have been chosen from MRP? The current CS team is fully formed from ex SCP SL members. The only people who were chosen from MRP as of currently were Chad Powers and Doofy, that's it. The only SCP NL that showed interest in MRP was Yeke. That counts only 3 people... Now how many NL have we had in the past?

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I have nothing against SCP nor the SCP playerbase, I have a problem with the amount of involvement in both the servers, one being "treated" better than the other. Literally there is a meme going around about this
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The update and Dev support has got to a point where Content team was just adding and adding and adding suggestions or bugs to the point where everyone was pinging devs left and right.

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hey thats me!

also SL/NL deleted my comment (real ops)
suggestion approved + added to the infinite backlog
 
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