What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
After playing one day with this change. I gotta say i think we start adding perks. For dclass that are escape risks and type-blue.
1. visual render distance with sight line (not including sniper scopes).
- generally this update really kills any combat. with a dclass equipped with anything except a pistol. its bonkers that you can see the handle of an uzi. from the catwalk windows and this makes suppliers. Basically, supply the same weapon which being pistol. We used to be-able to go to bathroom and walk out peacefully. Now when you pick it up and basically walk one foot. in view shoot of catwalk your kos. making every combat scenario just be in bathroom constantly.
2. type-blue/escape risk should be immune to render
- I don't know the in-game lore of reality benders. But they shouln't have weapons on their back. they already have the ability to materialize weapons out of thin air. Which disappeared after a few seconds. There should be an in-game reason on how they keep their. guns in another reality dimension they possess. they can pull at any given time. With escape risk honestly just because why not. If trustee can have more freedom outside of dblock. Escape risk should have more combat freedom in dblock.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
yes, its to add onto william suggestion https://civilnetworks.net/community...n-their-back-when-they-use-materialize.36322/
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- making it more far
- not having more combat scenario more dblock bathroom related
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- dev time
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Like what i saw on william suggestion i don't really have an opinion on this update itself. Nerveless, why do we need to nerf dclass more and buff gensec. Even with playing dclass as an escape rick for weeks. Dclass are so easily to counter these days. Gensec as gotten so many value changes over the years. which dclass has gotten nothing. There is 5 gensec roles that spawn with grenades especially captains. I have seen so many captains + cheif on lately. whats stopping them from just throwing gas grenades at every corner of dblock. they go through walls and have a big radius. There is no counter to this except gas mask oh wait gas mask are kos on sight. They already respawn with them. One shield outside of dblock negates any pushes + block any aoe explosives behind. They also have 912 to beat dclass. if he low health just recontain to full hp. If gensec where always coordinated with every riot. instead of thinking they can take on a whole army by their selves how can they lose. Any dclass with any color is already at a disadvantage. If less than two flagged on.
This is indeed a coop suggestion
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At the end of the day i know the devs are self-aware of the impact for dclass. and the fact its was always intent and not really going anywhere.
After playing one day with this change. I gotta say i think we start adding perks. For dclass that are escape risks and type-blue.
1. visual render distance with sight line (not including sniper scopes).
- generally this update really kills any combat. with a dclass equipped with anything except a pistol. its bonkers that you can see the handle of an uzi. from the catwalk windows and this makes suppliers. Basically, supply the same weapon which being pistol. We used to be-able to go to bathroom and walk out peacefully. Now when you pick it up and basically walk one foot. in view shoot of catwalk your kos. making every combat scenario just be in bathroom constantly.
2. type-blue/escape risk should be immune to render
- I don't know the in-game lore of reality benders. But they shouln't have weapons on their back. they already have the ability to materialize weapons out of thin air. Which disappeared after a few seconds. There should be an in-game reason on how they keep their. guns in another reality dimension they possess. they can pull at any given time. With escape risk honestly just because why not. If trustee can have more freedom outside of dblock. Escape risk should have more combat freedom in dblock.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
yes, its to add onto william suggestion https://civilnetworks.net/community...n-their-back-when-they-use-materialize.36322/
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- making it more far
- not having more combat scenario more dblock bathroom related
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- dev time
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Like what i saw on william suggestion i don't really have an opinion on this update itself. Nerveless, why do we need to nerf dclass more and buff gensec. Even with playing dclass as an escape rick for weeks. Dclass are so easily to counter these days. Gensec as gotten so many value changes over the years. which dclass has gotten nothing. There is 5 gensec roles that spawn with grenades especially captains. I have seen so many captains + cheif on lately. whats stopping them from just throwing gas grenades at every corner of dblock. they go through walls and have a big radius. There is no counter to this except gas mask oh wait gas mask are kos on sight. They already respawn with them. One shield outside of dblock negates any pushes + block any aoe explosives behind. They also have 912 to beat dclass. if he low health just recontain to full hp. If gensec where always coordinated with every riot. instead of thinking they can take on a whole army by their selves how can they lose. Any dclass with any color is already at a disadvantage. If less than two flagged on.
This is indeed a coop suggestion
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⣤⣶⣶⣶⣤⣼⣿⡏⠀⠀⠈⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣭⣭⣉⣉⣉⠉⠙⠛⢿⣧⡘⢿⣿⡿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⢻⡿⠿⢿⣿⣦⡈⢻⡆⠀
⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠙⠛⠁⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠙⠻⠿⠿⣷⣄⠀⠀⠹⣿⣦⠻⣷⣄⡀⠀⡠⣔⡴⠖⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣿⠘⣷⠀
⢀⣴⣿⡿⢠⣶⣷⣦⠀⣼⣷⣶⡄⣾⠀⣷⠀⢸⡇⢸⣷⡄⢠⣿⡎⣿⣧⣴⣶⣾⣿⣷⣜⠿⣿⡗⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢹⡀⣿⠀
⢸⣏⠀⠀⣿⡇⠀⣹⡇⣿⣷⡿⠃⣿⠀⣿⡀⣸⡇⢸⡿⣷⣼⢻⡇⢿⣿⠿⠿⠛⠛⠛⢿⣦⡈⠻⣯⣱⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡾⢰⡏⠀
⠈⠻⠿⠗⠘⠿⠿⠟⠀⠿⠃⠀⠀⠿⠀⠛⠿⠿⠃⠸⠇⠻⠇⠸⠇⢸⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣷⣦⣈⡛⡗⠒⠶⣖⣛⣛⣭⣽⡾⠟⠀⠀
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At the end of the day i know the devs are self-aware of the impact for dclass. and the fact its was always intent and not really going anywhere.
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