Content Suggestion Limit PAC3 To Help Stop Lag

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
[This would reenforce the limits initially set for PAC to prevent someone from making a PAC that lags the server to oblivion so they can look pretty, specifically blocking using Imagur and the like to import materials over the 15mb limit, as right now they ARE a large part in the lag.

"Just turn off PAC!"
Doesn't work, you still load it in, also then you run into the invisible men because people replace the Entity not use a Model.

"It doesn't cause that much lag!"
Yes. It does. Go to your console and run FProfiler for 4-5 minutes then look at Total time in ms (inclusive) and Average time in ms (inclusive). PAC3 isn't just the top issue, it's listed MULTIPLE times as the primary issue and what's eating most of your frames, only challenged by Vwar Attachments.

"But my model's materials are only slightly over the limit!"
Compress it. It takes like 5 minutes and saves alot of lag.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
[Probably, but the lag has just gotten worse consistently. It's to the point I can tell the very moment certain people load in.]

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[Less Lag, people don't need to invest in quantum computing just so people can load in a hyper realistic tank top.]

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[People will have to compress their giga pacs, some of them may just not buy pac.]

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[It's already a intended limitation and all people did was find a workaround at the cost of the rest of the playerbase. If by some unholy means this DOESN'T fix a substantial amount of lag it literally just takes a minute to unblacklist imagur.]
 
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specifically blocking using Imagur and the like to import materials over the 15mb limit
hold up they do this? I genuinely didn't know people do this, and if this is the case
+Support, the fact this isn't already a thing shocks me
 
At some point people will realize Pac3 is one of the number one things keeping this server running. Unless you want to start paying subscription fees to keep your permas, Pac3 is here to stay.

Type pac3 disable in console and stop whining, you are the arbiter of your fps :)

Addendum, people already get pulled for pacs that contribute excess lag. If anything pac3 apps can start asking for the size limits, which is something I suggested awhile ago
 

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At some point people will realize Pac3 is one of the number one things keeping this server running. Unless you want to start paying subscription fees to keep your permas, Pac3 is here to stay.
idk if you read the suggestion but its not outright removing Pac3 its just limiting how much storage can be used, doesnt mean it needs to be the exact amount that is suggested here, so it can take up limit can be ajusted to make a balance between people still buying pac3 and the server not lagging as much
 
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-support to any restriction made on pac3 to block file-hosting sites but i wanna be clear i agree with what you're saying otherwise lol
as far as i know this will unfortunately also affect GMs and their ability to run events, it's very difficult if not impossible for devs to code pac3 such that different usergroups have different pac permissions (i asked about this in the past) so it will affect absolutely EVERYONE and be very annoying to deal with - im sure someone will eventually find another site anyway and get around it, it's just gonna be a game of cat and mouse