Content Suggestion Limit PAC3 To Help Stop Lag

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
[This would reenforce the limits initially set for PAC to prevent someone from making a PAC that lags the server to oblivion so they can look pretty, specifically blocking using Imagur and the like to import materials over the 15mb limit, as right now they ARE a large part in the lag.

"Just turn off PAC!"
Doesn't work, you still load it in, also then you run into the invisible men because people replace the Entity not use a Model.

"It doesn't cause that much lag!"
Yes. It does. Go to your console and run FProfiler for 4-5 minutes then look at Total time in ms (inclusive) and Average time in ms (inclusive). PAC3 isn't just the top issue, it's listed MULTIPLE times as the primary issue and what's eating most of your frames, only challenged by Vwar Attachments.

"But my model's materials are only slightly over the limit!"
Compress it. It takes like 5 minutes and saves alot of lag.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
[Probably, but the lag has just gotten worse consistently. It's to the point I can tell the very moment certain people load in.]

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[Less Lag, people don't need to invest in quantum computing just so people can load in a hyper realistic tank top.]

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[People will have to compress their giga pacs, some of them may just not buy pac.]

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[It's already a intended limitation and all people did was find a workaround at the cost of the rest of the playerbase. If by some unholy means this DOESN'T fix a substantial amount of lag it literally just takes a minute to unblacklist imagur.]
 
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mmmm doesnt work for server sided lag if you put on a pac both the client and server side requests it, if you disable pac3 in console server side still requests the pac man
Not my fault the server ain't set on NASA style computers 🤷‍♂️
Save yourself some frames and disable it, the server runs bad enough as is, people should at least be used to it by now
 

Jeffrey Nut

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Not my fault the server ain't set on NASA style computers 🤷‍♂️
Save yourself some frames and disable it, the server runs bad enough as is, people should at least be used to it by now
i think the suggestion aims more for server sided lag and not actully client side if it gets accepted its both but pretty sure he tryna to fix server lag
 

Jeffrey Nut

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Server lag is a multitude of different things, sure pac is a contributor but the lag will still exist if pac is still around in any capacity
i get it, pac3 is just one of the highest lag causers on the server, limiting it would help out the server alot, at least a test phase if it even works ig
 
i get it, pac3 is just one of the highest lag causers on the server, limiting it would help out the server alot, at least a test phase if it even works ig
🤷‍♂️ I doubt it will do a whole lot
Plus, as Niox pointed out, staff are well aware of the issue and have it on their road map (Critical as well) so whatever happens happens, not dependent on the response of this suggestion

Best you can do is what I initially commented, and just wait till there is change
 
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John Kild

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I like this idea, but I wouldn't blacklist Imgur, I would just suggest enforce a rule for pac meaning you have to spend a little more time to optimize your model. But also I would add a slight limit to pac as well for how much you can use from Imgur and other stuff that could potentially cause lag. Also I would add a system where staff and some other high ranked people like game masters can approve the enabling of the larger pacs so there is not 2-5 detailed pacs that are being loaded at the same time or one right after the other