make it fail rp to have HCZ blast doors closed for no reason

[bobby joe]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Make it fail rp to have the HCZ blast door closed when they is no reason for it to be closed

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[Response here] makes it actually fair for CI to raid HCZ due to it is always unfair when they have it closed due to CI needing to hack it while being ambushed by 50 MTF from behind and then a massive firing line behind the blast door

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[Response here] N/A

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[Response here] They have been multiple cases where CI have raided and attempted to go HCZ and the blast door has been shut with like 9 E11 behind it with a firing line waiting for them where also it doesn't make sense to close a Armoured blast door to stop CI the blast door is there for SCPS not people and they have been alot of cases where E11/CL4 personnel actually keep the blast door closed for the entire day what isn't actually fair/being used for its actual usage the door only needs to be closed when they is a C5/Code black any other time it shouldn't be closed

 

[RedSpeeds]

-Support

 

[Asp]

WHAT? Why would Foundation use the hard to get through door to stop the danger??????

 

[Chad]

-support cope

 

[bobby joe]

Which blast door specifically, is it the one closest to 079 etc? If so that's not intended, its supposed to stay open

the ones what let u enter HCZ Primary and secondary

 

[bobby joe]

The one next to 914, it gets closed sometimes when a CI raid is headed to HCZ

so does primary alot of the time smh

 

[Kw1ll]

if its too easy with too many handouts it ruins rp, if its too hard it ruins CI activity and gameplay, I think theres def a point to be made with the balance between CI and Foundation but this is one of the most difficult issues to tackle in the game (for certain reasons or another). personally I have never been a fan of limiting responses via just "it rule break failrp ADMINN!!!!!!!!", but its clear that it gives a big advantage for foundation during raids. personally im -support on this however different answers should be explored via SL and CI/F to ensure balance remains decent

 

[Mark Belgrum (Dutch)]

-Support
Seems like a skill issue not being able to hack a CL4. It is not even biometric or anything.

 

[Vollgas]

-Support

Unironically a skill issue.

 

[Boris Johnson]

+support

gets abused.

 

[Skittles]

-Support

Unironically a skill issue.

CI are always going on about their W's and how they have great hackers who can hack a CL4 super fast. The moment it isn't used for breaching an SCP it's an issue I guess.

 

["Artemis"]

-support its just a door bro

 

[Komodo]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Make it fail rp to have the HCZ blast door closed when they is no reason for it to be closed

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
[Response here] makes it actually fair for CI to raid HCZ due to it is always unfair when they have it closed due to CI needing to hack it while being ambushed by 50 MTF from behind and then a massive firing line behind the blast door

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
[Response here] N/A

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
[Response here] They have been multiple cases where CI have raided and attempted to go HCZ and the blast door has been shut with like 9 E11 behind it with a firing line waiting for them where also it doesn't make sense to close a Armoured blast door to stop CI the blast door is there for SCPS not people and they have been alot of cases where E11/CL4 personnel actually keep the blast door closed for the entire day what isn't actually fair/being used for its actual usage the door only needs to be closed when they is a C5/Code black any other time it shouldn't be closed

I won't give a + or - support as I'm part of E11, and my opinion may be biased, but here is what I think.
E11 closes it mainly when understaffed due to how large HCZ is and being unable to man both checkpoints and still have E11 patrol HCZ or escort researchers. Also, it isn't that hard to hack a C4 door if it is I would recommend practicing C4 hacks.

 

[Otters]

-Support

 

[bobby joe]

I won't give a + or - support as I'm part of E11, and my opinion may be biased, but here is what I think.
E11 closes it mainly when understaffed due to how large HCZ is and being unable to man both checkpoints and still have E11 patrol HCZ or escort researchers. Also, it isn't that hard to hack a C4 door if it is I would recommend practicing C4 hacks.

its not the door whats hard its the like 500 waves of MTF what attack us from behind then needing to deal with 500 E11 behind the door

 

[Komodo]

its not the door whats hard its the like 500 waves of MTF what attack us from behind then needing to deal with 500 E11 behind the door

Your raiding.... the foundation.... plus Secondary isn't that far from E11 spawn... it kinda makes sense that its going to be difficult because almost all of e11 think you're wanting to breach 008 when you raid.

 

[Vollgas]

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its not the door whats hard its the like 500 waves of MTF what attack us from behind then needing to deal with 500 E11 behind the door

I've seen CI hack those in a matter of seconds and get into the elevator with no problem plenty of times. Once again, your best bet is making sure your good hackers don't die.

 

[John Dear]

-Support

+support

gets abused.

I don't quite understand how you consider closing a blast door against CI is abuse?

The doors are meant to seal, they make sure anything inside HCZ stays inside and anything outside of HCZ stays out. Yes i must admit they are quite powerful especially at the primary CP since it has 2 blast doors. But HCZ Is quite big now and has 2 entrances. The Secondary BD is mainly closed longer of periods due to limited numbers of E-11.


The exact same thing could also be said for SCP's then right? If the blast door is closed its not fair for them. they get ambushed by MTF and its hard for them to break open or hack the Door. When they finaly do get through the door MTF have a firing line behind it.....

 

[Luft]

Our current stance on this matter is the exact same it's always been, before this update where two Blast Doors / Entrances into HCZ have been created there must be good reasonings as to why the Blast Door was closed.

The only acceptable reasonings for why either Secondary or Main Blast Door should be closed is only during Code 5s. If there are other genuinely good reasonings, other than it being a sole deterrent for C.I then they are subject to staff discretion.

Whilst I'm not completely ignoring the fact of manpower during certain times of C.I being able to raid, e.g not enough Combative Personnel on yet again this is up to staff discretion in terms of how many active Combative Personnel are on/off to justify Secondary Blast Door being closed.​