- Sep 16, 2023
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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Currently, the following pistols exist:
Some key things here:
What I would like to suggest is that there be some more variation in the available pistols, both as permas, and more broadly. What I was thinking was:
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Some parts may have, such as making revolvers available via gun dealers or as permas, but this is more broad and less specific. Job loadouts and the like have also changed a lot since those suggestions were made.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Currently, the pistols available are very limited. Most just have whatever they get via their job and then just don't consider anything further, because even if they wanted something more, there's not much available. The best you can get is a deagle. There's no way of getting any revolver which isn't the Hailstorm (which is shit). There's no way of getting anything that doesn't require manually equipping and buying except a very limited selection of three pistols which are basically the same. This is asking for that to just be improved generally.
Currently, the following pistols exist:
| Pistol | Type | Jobs Used | Armoury NPC/Perma | Armoury | Gun Dealer | Heavy Gun Dealer | MC&D |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| .44 Magnum | Revolver/Heavy | Site Director/GOC Commander | No | No | No | No | No |
| BR9 | Standard | No | No | Yes | Yes | No | |
| CZ 75-B | Standard | ISD Commissioner/Director, CI Cartographer/Officer/Commanding Officer/Commander | No | No | No | No | No |
| CZ75 | Standard | DEA Senior Agent/Field Agent/Special Agent/Manager/Director, O-1 Officer/Commander | No | No | Yes | Yes | No |
| Deagle | Heavy | No | No | Yes | Yes | No | |
| G17.Ethics | Standard/Special | Ethics Member/Chairman | No | No | No | No | No |
| GSH18 | Standard | GSD CPT/Chief, ISD Agent/Operative/Investigator/Inspector | No | No | No | No | No |
| Glock P80 | Standard/Auto | Foundation Cartographer | No | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
| H&K P30L | Standard | DEA Agent/Operative, UN Attaché/Ambassador | No | No | No | No | No |
| Hailstorm | Revolver/Energy | Hailstorm Salesman | No | No | No | No | Yes |
| M1911 | Standard | Overseer Assistant, Ethics Assistant | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | No |
| M9 | Standard | Combat Medic, A-1 Operative/Specialist/Enforcement/Officer/Commander, E-11 Operative/Containment Specialist/Biohazard Specialist/Breacher/Officer/Commander, O-1 Operative/Specialist/Enforcement, CI Operative/Chemist/Deep Cover/R&D/Juggernaut/Medic/Strike Team/Marksman/Type-Blue/Delta Operative | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | No |
| MP443 | Standard | Nu-7 Operative/Medic/Specialist/Autorifleman/Marksman/Officer/Commander | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | No |
| P320 | Standard | Site Advisor/Manager, | No | No | No | No | No |
| Prokolot | Standard | No | No | No | No | No | |
| S&W 659 | Standard | GOC Cartographer/Soldier/Juggernaut/Medic/Field Operative/Assessment Team/Marksman/Strike Team/Officer, Ranger | No | No | No | No | No |
| S&W Model 29 | Revolver | No | No | No | No | No | |
| USP | Standard | GSD Cadet/Guard/Officer/SRU Patrol/SGT | No | No | No | No | No |
| XK-O5 | Standard/Special | O5-1/2/3/4 | No | No | No | No | No |
Some key things here:
- There is no way for anybody to acquire any standard revolver without spawning with it (which is very few roles)
- Out of all these pistols, there are only three perma pistols available, all of which are just standard pistols with no real variation (beyond the fact that only the M1911 can't have a flashlight or laser)
- There is literally no possible way to acquire an S&W Model 29, and you can only acquire the Prokolot as a D-class via the contraband NPC
What I would like to suggest is that there be some more variation in the available pistols, both as permas, and more broadly. What I was thinking was:
- Make the .44 Magnum available via the Heavy Gun Dealer
- Make the S&W Model 29 available either via the Heavy Gun Dealer, or make it a weaker revolver (may need stats change, but currently unused so not really a problem) and make it available as a perma
- Make the Prokolot and maybe one or two of the other standard pistols also available as permas
- The Prokolot in particular has some skins, as do some of the other pistols, many of which aren't available except via specific jobs or via manually equipping elsewhere, e.g. via a gun dealer or armoury entity
- Make a greater variety of pistols more generally available, and make regular revolvers actually available at all to players that aren't the GOC Commander and the Site Director
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Some parts may have, such as making revolvers available via gun dealers or as permas, but this is more broad and less specific. Job loadouts and the like have also changed a lot since those suggestions were made.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Makes normal revolvers actually available to players outside of two jobs, which they currently aren't in any way
- Makes a more varied set of pistols available as permas, which are currently very limited
- Makes the S&W Model 29 actually used at all - it's currently literally impossible to acquire except via staff/GM tools
- More permas, especially more types of permas, will probably make CN more money
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Requires gun balancing consideration from Content Team
- I've tried to make this as easy as possible - e.g. the Model 29 isn't used at all, so you can use whatever stats you want for it, and others are available already, just not this broadly, e.g. the Prokolot
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Currently, the pistols available are very limited. Most just have whatever they get via their job and then just don't consider anything further, because even if they wanted something more, there's not much available. The best you can get is a deagle. There's no way of getting any revolver which isn't the Hailstorm (which is shit). There's no way of getting anything that doesn't require manually equipping and buying except a very limited selection of three pistols which are basically the same. This is asking for that to just be improved generally.
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