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Auburn

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Option 1: ​

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:​

  1. Add a new weapon, the NV-4 from Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare, into the server.
    • It would be given stats equivalent to current standard weapons for combative personnel (e.g. VHS-D2, ARX-160, Ghost-R5, etc).
  2. Replace the E-11 Containment Specialists Primary rifle with the newly added NV-4.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):​

  • Equips the Generalist E-11 role with a gun suited for its position.
  • Allows E-11 to facilitate combat more effectively in Mid-long range combat.
  • Aesthetic Consistency within the unit and its loadout.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:​

  • Development Time for porting, rigging, programming, and setting up attachments for the new weapon
  • Increased server load times due to new content.

Option 2:​

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:​

  1. Replace the E-11 Containment Specialist Primary rifle with a KBAR-32.
  2. Nerf the KBAR-32 to stats equivalent to current standard weapons for combative personnel (e.g. VHS-D2, ARX-160, Ghost-R5, etc)
  3. Move KBAR-32 out of the Energy-Weapon category and into the Rifle category.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):​

  • Equips the Generalist E-11 role with a gun suited for its position.
  • Allows E-11 to facilitate combat more effectively in Mid-long range combat.
  • Aesthetic Consistency within the unit and its loadout.
  • No new content needs to be added.
  • No overlap with other jobs loadouts. The KBAR-32 is used by no one currently.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:​

  • Event-Planners lose a unique weapon for event characters to use
    • In my honest opinion, restricting this weapon only to event use is a waste of its potential.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:​

After speaking with people from both UK and US E-11, The general sentiment is that the Karma-45 is heavily disliked for its high recoil, high spread, and low DPS. Furthermore, the Karma-45 has had a broken Flashlight attachment for MONTHS. Many E-11 forgo the better-equipped Containment Specialist and instead use the Operative Job, simply because the FHR-40 is a better alternative to the Karma-45. As a job that is supposed to be an upgrade from the operative job, this is not a good situation for it to be in.

As Biohazard specialists frequently deal with “Horde” style enemies (mainly 049-2 and 008-2 swarms), the high spread and large magazine size of the Karma-45 is very effective for it.
However, the Containment Specialist is meant to be a generalist equipped for every situation. It is woefully under-equipped to deal with many SCPs, especially at the mid to long-range encounters that we frequently find ourselves in after the HCZ Update. Long sightlines and broad open areas like you see outside 939, in the atrium, and outside 7722 demonstrate the inability of the Karma-45 to provide consistent damage to a target.

Both Command Teams of US and UK E-11 Agreed to the change, and encouraged me to go ahead with the suggestion. This suggestion has been in the works for the better part of 2 weeks now and would be beneficial all around for the regiment.
 
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dango said:
-massive support
i used the KBAR during a event once and let me tell you its broken as fuck. it does way more damage than a volk or a ARX and there is no reason to add a entirely different gun or nerf a existing gun (now unused as it used to be on A-1 commander) when they could just buff your current guns
also. E-11 isnt meant to deal with PVP threats such as GOC or CI. you guys are meant to have massive mag sizes to spray down and attack SCPs. giving you guys a reskinned ARX would make absolutely zero sense as you guys deal with scps. not CI. thats NU-7s job. if there is a raid, NU-7, DEA, and A-1 are already all there to help with the situation.
also giving it to containment specialist?? it would make sense if it was a weapon for high ranking E-11 but you guys already get the QBZ which is the most broken gun in the game for your CO's imagine if you gave gensec officers m4 paras as the default loadout. thats basically what your suggesting
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Did you even read the suggestion? he said it would nerf the K-Bar to the stats of a VHS or Arx.
 
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Rushi said:
If the issue is Karma-45, then we can look into it and see what we can do with it, rather than having to add a new weapon or possibly having to change another weapon to replace it.
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The Karma-45 isn't the whole issue. While a buff to it would be very welcome, it would not fix the underlying issues with the Specialist Jobs E-11 Has. As mentioned in the suggestion, The Karma-45 in its current state works very well for the Biohazard Specialist as it is frequently fighting against "horde" style enemies (lots of 049-2s and 008-2s). This cannot be said for the Containment Specialist role as it needs to be equipped to fight against every SCP in a multitude of environments, and the Karma-45 is limited to effective operation over shorter ranges.
Buffing the Karma-45 to work as a longer-range weapon (i.e. reducing spread and recoil) would actively hinder the effectiveness of the Biohazard Specialists' main weapon.

I presented both options as a means to give the Content Team choices to pick the best from, as I am not (and will never be) fully aware of the current situation of the server regarding development. If Buffing the Karma-45 was a viable option right now to fix the problems we are facing, this would be a very different suggestion.
 
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Suggestion Denied​


Hi @Auburn ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

We will be looking into the Karma-45 to see if it needs change, But the Kbar will not be used.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​
 
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