My problem with the current state of roleplay on SCP RP!

[Bill Nye The Guy]

final solution to the CI problem

the way you describe CI is exactly how i wish it would be (an organisation full of deep covers who pretend to work in the foundation, and rare facility raids) but you definitely knew as you were writing this that what you're hoping for is utterly unachievable

They must entirely integrate themselves into the ranks of the foundation to survive
They need to be able to hack into the foundation databases via roleplay driven means and spread disinformation on the scipnet
The main focus of CI raids will be infiltration, information extraction, theft of resource and on rare occasions the theft of SCP items

noone reads scipnet, disinformation would be completely useless
what's the point of 'hacking into the database' to put something there noone will read?
also, the entire lore of CI is that they follow elusive orders from delcom most of which involve stealing and weaponising various SCPs, i'd imagine that would be a bigger thing to them than putting documents on foundation computers which do as much as a preacher on the street

Their blatant disregard for server health isn't my main issue even, my main issue is the blatant disregard for resource and human lives, CI are meant to be a terrorist faction, if you can justify them having something of an "infinite man generator" realistically then by all means however I suggest that they be MASSIVELY reduced.

there's not a lot of lore surrounding CI but, from my understanding/headcanon, everyone who is part of it is fanatically loyal and probably under the effect of some cognitohazard (there is a tale which eludes to the engine being that cognitohazard i think?? it's been a while so i can't say for sure); they'll do whatever is asked of them (even if it means death) as long as it comes from delcom
if i remember right in lore they also have child soldiers and shit that they recruit from africa, they are a terrorist organisation at the end of the day

Perhaps they could even try to blackmail LGO into delivering equipment to them as LGO won't inherently be controlled by the foundation as an independent company

this shit is impossible to do on an RP server without GM intervention

what did ci do to get this much hate from you kek

 

[Jimmy Swan]

The implementation of the group of interest known as Logistics global operations into the server

Oorah, LGO on top.

 

[RODSIN]

final solution to the CI problem

the way you describe CI is exactly how i wish it would be (an organisation full of deep covers who pretend to work in the foundation, and rare facility raids) but you definitely knew as you were writing this that what you're hoping for is utterly unachievable

noone reads scipnet, disinformation would be completely useless
what's the point of 'hacking into the database' to put something there noone will read?
also, the entire lore of CI is that they follow elusive orders from delcom most of which involve stealing and weaponising various SCPs, i'd imagine that would be a bigger thing to them than putting documents on foundation computers which do as much as a preacher on the street

there's not a lot of lore surrounding CI but, from my understanding/headcanon, everyone who is part of it is fanatically loyal and probably under the effect of some cognitohazard (there is a tale which eludes to the engine being that cognitohazard i think?? it's been a while so i can't say for sure); they'll do whatever is asked of them (even if it means death) as long as it comes from delcom
if i remember right in lore they also have child soldiers and shit that they recruit from africa, they are a terrorist organisation at the end of the day

this shit is impossible to do on an RP server without GM intervention

what did ci do to get this much hate from you kek

There is a lot of lore about CI. CI has its own page and has a lot of it. Have you ever heard about Derek Crowley ?. You can see on both of their wikis about their difference, one claiming they are a bunch of terrorist and traitors. While the other one claims that scp's could be use in humanity's favour.

CI are known not to take or raid for scp's that are useless, for example in site 65 they would take 2295, 912 among others. Or other scp's to make them stronger such as SCP 5000.

Returning to lore, If you knew about CI they were ex A1, they are the elite of the elite, they don't train like police force. Rather than exams that's theory, they would do a shit tone of training, then some raids, shit tone of training, lets go recon, we should do a specialised raid and then a full one. Thats how it works!

Returning to Derek Crowley.. He is a SEPIA SO and UNGOC ally, (he is goat even he is french). Nah I could spoil you some lore, but he is a goat, gonna leave it to the rest

 

[Zen]

Breaches should be entirely RP-based and not a random queue. They should also not be as easy as they currently are - give E-11 and SCUs back the specific location alerts. I want more things like a 173 test going wrong and 173 escaping, rather than oopsie woopsie, two random unrelated SCPs in completely different areas have magically escaped with no outside interference. CI raids also shouldn't be nearly as often, but SL don't like this idea, because any longer and nobody would play CI - that's because it makes no sense for them to be such a significant permanent presence. Just have CI raids start with an ERT-like call up at random times or when SL manually triggers one.

 

[Sceptre]

Can't agree with you more. It's unbelievable. Should probably spend my time doing something productive than listening to some researcher scream "SKIBIDI SIGMA" through the door in the middle of a meeting.

 

['Athena']

FR Roleplay reset
DCs being not a sneak in and take a disguise but you hop onto the job after a 45 minute cooldown and it sets you as a random foundation, off chance your ID doesnt match and its up to you to figure out in RP who your other DC is

But that requires roleplay, and, roleplay on civilnetworks roleplay? blegh

Otherwise pop off queen

 

[Bill Nye The Guy]

There is a lot of lore about CI. CI has its own page and has a lot of it. Have you ever heard about Derek Crowley ?. You can see on both of their wikis about their difference, one claiming they are a bunch of terrorist and traitors. While the other one claims that scp's could be use in humanity's favour.

CI are known not to take or raid for scp's that are useless, for example in site 65 they would take 2295, 912 among others. Or other scp's to make them stronger such as SCP 5000.

Returning to lore, If you knew about CI they were ex A1, they are the elite of the elite, they don't train like police force. Rather than exams that's theory, they would do a shit tone of training, then some raids, shit tone of training, lets go recon, we should do a specialised raid and then a full one. Thats how it works!

Returning to Derek Crowley.. He is a SEPIA SO and UNGOC ally, (he is goat even he is french). Nah I could spoil you some lore, but he is a goat, gonna leave it to the rest

ci-wiki.wikidot.com user detected
using shit from ci-wiki.wikidot.com is like going to poundland and expecting the same quality of products as going to M&S
On the 'CI wiki' there are 80 articles written collectively by 20 people, and of those 20 people 2 PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN HALF THE ARTICLES (and of those two, one of them wrote 30 OF THEM)
if you want proper CI lore go onto scp-wiki.wikidot.com's chaos insurgency hub there's not as much info there but i can guarantee you everything is much higher quality than on the bootleg ci wiki site

i dont know why i hate 'ci wiki' so much but there's something about it i just really don't like

Returning to lore, If you knew about CI they were ex A1, they are the elite of the elite, they don't train like police force. Rather than exams that's theory, they would do a shit tone of training, then some raids, shit tone of training, lets go recon, we should do a specialised raid and then a full one. Thats how it works!

Returning to lore, If you knew about CI they were ex A1 when they were first formed 100 fucking years ago do you seriously think there's just been a steady stream of A1 joining CI for a hundred years???

Btw if you're chatting about how CI works, here's a brief description from the wiki:
The Chaos Insurgency's Delta Command, shrouded in mystery, issues orders to the lower ranks. Gamma-class researchers and military commanders have oversight over the execution of the Delta Command's orders.
Beta-class personnel, while not given the same level of command as Gamma-class, carry out the Insurgency's work in the field.
Alpha-class personnel [are] often recruited from individuals with little to no knowledge of the anomalous... They are the grunt workers: numerous and expendable... They are told that they will use the anomalous to build a utopian future, where humanity is master of everything, not just a mirage.
about that cognitohazard thing i was saying earlier, here's an excerpt from one of the SCP wiki tales about CI:
[Tale protagonist] felt his mind begin to run wild. He was being told something—the engine was telling him something. It whispered at the corners of his mind, speaking a language that Arjun couldn’t understand. The patterns of science and logic unraveled to reveal higher and higher forms of knowledge while the remains of discarded theories piled in the sewers of humanity and began to rot.

Rather than exams that's theory, they would do a shit tone of training, then some raids, shit tone of training, lets go recon, we should do a specialised raid and then a full one. Thats how it works!

what are you even trying to say here????

 

[cityismy]

On the 'CI wiki' there are 80 articles written collectively by 20 people, and of those 20 people 2 PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN HALF THE ARTICLES (and of those two, one of them wrote 30 OF THEM)

This is true, quality control on that site is essentially non existent, I'd prefer if people just used the damn SCP wiki, wanderers library and the international sites because at least some of the people there aren't braindead..

 

[paul wall]

Half the problem is the staff are way too heavy handed and will literally sit there and spectate people and pull them to sits as soon as they go "off script". No room for creative solutions or solving things in RP. Also too many powergamers and rules lawyers who take advantage of the staff being unable to use common sense or deal with anything that requires thought and doesnt have the MOTD in front of them so they can say "Rules are rules".

Also CI is just an RDM job and you can't convince me otherwise.

 

[Skinner]

Half the problem is the staff are way too heavy handed and will literally sit there and spectate people and pull them to sits as soon as they go "off script". No room for creative solutions or solving things in RP. Also too many powergamers and rules lawyers who take advantage of the staff being unable to use common sense or deal with anything that requires thought and doesnt have the MOTD in front of them so they can say "Rules are rules".

Also CI is just an RDM job and you can't convince me otherwise.

Pls explain how it’s an rdm job i beg you

 

['Dutch']

Goober making valid points?
Are you sick or something? What is going on here.

 

[paul wall]

Pls explain how it’s an rdm job i beg you

Wannabe tacticool 14 year old kids who stream into the facility and shit it up against the tide of braindead security players.

 

[Dusk]

Wannabe tacticool 14 year old kids who stream into the facility and shit it up against the tide of braindead security players.

I think there's a bigger case against the overall organization of the facility structure itself. There's a lot of people that are unhappy or downright displeased with the state of SA and SC especially high on the chain leaders. No structural support, no one plays by the rules.

 

[Driver]

+support to everything but ci removal, I need to kill ci

 

[caramelalpaca]

+support to everything but ci removal, I need to kill ci

This ain’t a suggestion, this is a discussion smh

 

[Niox]

Wannabe tacticool 14 year old kids who stream into the facility and shit it up against the tide of braindead security players.

that’s just CN ngl

 

[Driver]

This ain’t a suggestion, this is a discussion smh

idc i +support this anyway

 

[Skinner]

Wannabe tacticool 14 year old kids who stream into the facility and shit it up against the tide of braindead security players.

typical usa issue man sorry to break it to you

 

[Zen]

I think there's a bigger case against the overall organization of the facility structure itself. There's a lot of people that are unhappy or downright displeased with the state of SA and SC especially high on the chain leaders. No structural support, no one plays by the rules.

The existence of SC on site both makes no sense and just leads to them constantly stepping all over each other and SA. Remove SC and AO and it makes much more sense, frees up F3 and ECO for other stuff, and removes Content Team's bullshit excuse of "job bloat" for not adding new jobs.

 

[Driver]

The existence of SC on site both makes no sense and just leads to them constantly stepping all over each other and SA. Remove SC and AO and it makes much more sense, frees up F3 and ECO for other stuff, and removes Content Team's bullshit excuse of "job bloat" for not adding new jobs.

this has been denied already you guys gotta stop bringing this point up