Denied Physically prevent GOC in a suit from being taken by 035

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Claire!

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
While I usually would not put "It makes sense" in a suggestion, this quite literally is the clear definition of why it makes sense that you should not be able to be taken while in a suit (I think the yellow suit is immune? But I think all suits should be immune). This is because it is physically impossible to take off the suit of armor unless at a box, and the suit is able to check your vitals, so it would probably notice something weird is going on (such as brainwashing/noticing brain functions are weird) and if 035 is confirmed to have a suit (such as the red suit) it would blow up.

It makes *zero* sense for 035 to be able to take a suit, such as the red suit, or any other suit for that matter. Hence it should be a gameplay mechanic to physically disallow 035 from taking you in a suit, similar to ERT.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I do not think so

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Going into a foundation site to do a research test and get taken by 035 while in a highly expensive suit. When it'd be blown up via the failsafe the suits have.
It'd be more balanced, as 035 in a suit is *deadly* and makes no sense for it to be possible.


Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Of course, it does not come without some negatives
It'd make it harder for 035 to grab more individuals.
It would make GOC a bit more powerful, and they are already extremely powerful as is.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
With that, I believe it should be accepted, as these suits are quite expensive, and it makes zero sense for 035 to be able to take it as you would not be able to put the mask on while in a suit, and the suit would blow up before letting 035 get it. It makes complete and utter sense and allows for more fairness with these expensive suits. Hence why I believe this should be accepted.

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Yoyo said:
035 pulls people toward it, and then people want to put it on. its not like 035 is a being forcing them to take off the suit. also i dont think you need to be at a box to take off a suit, you could just take it off (in lore)
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Well then we move to the fact that the suit would blow up.

It makes no sense that 035 can take a suit. The person once taken would go brain dead, and die once the mask is on, and then 035 controls it. It would blow up, similar to how when a person dies in a suit, it blows up.
 
this seems like a one time situation that happened on uk, never seen this before on us, and making you brain dead doesnt actually kill you, you just become a vegetable. you are still living, and can be fed and stay living. so unless you are making a suggestion for the suits to have a brain wave checker this kinda just seems like it ruins the fun of a 035 player
 
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this seems like a one time situation that happened on uk, never seen this before on us, and making you brain dead doesnt actually kill you, you just become a vegetable. you are still living, and can be fed and stay living. so unless you are making a suggestion for the suits to have a brain wave checker this kinda just seems like it ruins the fun of a 035 player
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It checks the brain waves and all the operator's vitals. It is why you cannot steal a yellow suit or any suit while Class-F'd, but also just like it checks brain waves and everything.

I'm done arguring, but it makes zero sense, and the suit does check brain waves.
 
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I personally think it's quite fun when 035 can take powerful hosts. That is what makes the SCP so interesting, They could take a D class and have and be weak or take a GOC in a Suit and be a immense challenge. This is why 035 is one of my favorites to fight on the server as the breaches can be very different.

As far as lore accuracy goes, Excuses could be made either way both in favor and against the mask being able to be worn by a suit user. So it's not a point worth arguing about.
 
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Generally this can be easily prevented by the player just being cauctious or teammates noticing someone isnt speaking while investigating a breach

Per Lore 035 would be able to posses either The suit itself or the Suit user
The suit user would never "Die" more so their brain functions being replaced
(Death of a host would be the eventual decay not the possession)

Also while i was against 035 being given Rocket launchers (Because of how little counter play it has and it being abused)

the GOC suit really seems like one in a lifetime thing for every player
and more so a fault of a GOC player , that the SCP shouldn't be punished for

And even more cant be abused for constant breaches without it being a rulebreak ( unlike 035 being given the M202)
 
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Let 035 possess the user of an O-Suit and have it march down to heavy :D
But fr 035 doesn't register the person he possesses as dead. They only say that in the wiki because the host dies, and is replaced by 035.
 
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Hi Claire!,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):

GOC suits shouldn't be an end-all-be-all solution with absolute immunity to everything, ERT has this as they're meant to serve as a soft nuke, GOC suits don't.

Orange Suit, Yellow suit and Bronze suit already have this immunity.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​
 
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