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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Reintroduce the dispenser behaviour in which it had a small chance to produce an 096 picture when hacked - With regards to concerns over it being too annoying, or too powerful for CI, investigate either of the following possibilities:- Making it applicable only to Foundation dispensers, potentially via some relation to how dispensers are now flagged with per-faction clearances?
- Adding an additional hacked dispenser behaviour to CI/GOC dispensers that has a chance of producing a 1000lb bomb explosion (or something to the effect of) centred on that dispenser, to discourage repeatedly hacking the dispenser to try for an 096 pic
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I'm unaware of any previous suggestion on this exact topic - I have an active suggestion re-opening the topic of potentially having an 096 picture spawn in Pinewood, and reading through the original thread of the suggestion I re-opened, I discovered that this used to be a thing on the server in the past and was removed because of community displeasure with the feature at the time. I feel it worth reconsidering this due to multiple reasons, which I outline in the last section.Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- + More reason to hack dispensers (Especially for 079/035)
- + More bite to 096 breaches and more worthwhile breaches for it
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- - Implementation time (Working it out in such a way that CI either can't or are heavily disincentivised from hacking a dispenser to produce a picture in their own base)
- - Technically an 035 & 079 buff
- - Technically a CI buff
- - Abuse from mingy Foundation players (And potentially similar issues with CI if a strong disincentivisation method is employed like the one outlined in the first section)
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Oops, all 096 suggestions!I understand that when this originally was a thing and discovered, it wasn't liked to the point where even Staff thought it was a bug -And it was pretty much immediately removed because of how strong it was. Since then, many things have changed; I can think of a couple pertinent examples, the first being the confirmation of an upcoming CI base rework, which in combination with disincentivisation methods may allow for this to be reintroduced without it being such a powerful thing for CI - But the second example being the changes to dispensers since those times, namely those that allow dispensers to distinguish between faction clearance, so that an CI CL3 can't get CL3 items from Foundation dispensers and vice versa, etc. And I'm wondering if something can be done along those lines to just outright prevent this from occurring specifically on Surface dispensers, so that this could only happen by hacking Foundation dispensers.
Most importantly, if minges start hacking dispensers to try and get this to happen, in Foundation this can easily and swiftly be punished by either ISD as Treason or w/e - Or in some cases, FailRP, where appropriate - And if disincentivisation methods are employed instead of prevention for Surface dispensers, there could be something similar that may happen within CI/GOC.
I would like everyone to note that bucketing 096 removes the active picture, which is an intended feature that is planned to stay. Therefore as things are, I think this is a relatively reasonable ask as 096 breaches by themselves are minimal impact - As 096 generally relies on either poor response or another SCP to be effective.
If this is still unacceptable, then I would be okay with additionally removing random 096 picture spawns in exchange for this - Albeit at a higher hacked dispenser 096 pic rate %, as 096's only methods of breaching would then be via the queue, being hacked out, and having the doors broken (the latter of which easily being 096's weakest breach, by my observation and experience).
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