Rule Suggestion Remove the 6 Hours per week Requirement for all Jobs. Or lower it to less then 4

[Langstädtler]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Remove the Requirement to be on the Server 6 Hours per week and replace it with different requirements which can be decided by the leadership teams of the Branches.
While i talked with a few different COs, all of them seem to agree that the 6 Hours a week is something managable, which is why i am doing this as a Suggestion to get it Removed at least Lowerd to 4 Hours.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I tried multiple different Keywords but nothing came out which would suggest that this was suggested before.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- It would allow more People to join MTFs and Progress higher in the Foundation ( together with all the different Positves more Nu-7 and E-11 ect would have )
-Less Stress by needing to Scratch 6 Hours per Week together for GMOD which is a lot if you also have a long Commute
- Server is more Open for people needing to work and dont have much time for Games.
- Less Tasks which need to be done alone, and can be done in Teams instead.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
-While there would be more People, some might get less Trainings in and do a bit Worse then others.
- It needs to be replaced by something else so it would Require time from Leadership to

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Fitting 6 Hours of Gmod into a Work week can be quiet a Task, especially if you are Older and Tired after work, removing the Requirement of being on the Server almost everyday or very long over the weekend, would allow for more People in MTF and Leadership Positions
Addional people who are turned off by this Requirement would stay on the Server for a longer ammount of Time, meaning we could Climb up in the Server Rankings and get even more People on this Server.

 

[Aphex]

This is an issue that needs to be solved with the department/faction leads in question, is it not? Nowhere in the rules does it say that the activity requirement is.

 

[Langstädtler]

This is an issue that needs to be solved with the department/faction leads in question, is it not? Nowhere in the rules does it say that the activity requirement is.

Yeah i talked to some, and as far as i know 6 Hours is seem as something Reasonable. Which is why i made the Suggestion to get it removed or lowerd.

 

[Snake]

@Langstädtler
This is more so a department or regimental policy like Aphex mentioned. Should you want this changed the best course of action would be to speak to Site Adminstration for E-11/Nu-7 and Site Command for A-1/O-1

 

[Snake]

Yeah i talked to some, and as far as i know 6 Hours is seem as something Reasonable. Which is why i made the Suggestion to get it removed or lowerd.

This wasn't loaded on my page when I typed my initial response. Apologies for that. That's fair enough if you wish to have SL remove it and are suggesting it via that method

 

[Langstädtler]

@Langstädtler
This is more so a department or regimental policy like Aphex mentioned. Should you want this changed the best course of action would be to speak to Site Adminstration for E-11/Nu-7 and Site Command for A-1/O-1

I mean, i could talk to a few more. And hope i can change some more minds.

 

[Snake]

I mean, i could talk to a few more. And hope i can change some more minds.

Some regiments or departments don't enforce hour reqs for Cl4s but rather have it based on performance and stuff, that being said you will probably struggle to meet performance standards with 4 hrs a week I'll be honest

 

[Dan Roth]

- support
I feel the activity requirements should be higher, six hours a week means you can be active for less than an hour each day roughly 50 minutes i would expect people in these roles to be active for around 2 hours each day.

 

[Dusk]

Activity requirements should be much higher.
Lowering the bar attracts lower quality candidates.

People can find the time, stop complaining.

 

[fyzar]

Activity requirements should be much higher.
Lowering the bar attracts lower quality candidates.

People can find the time, stop complaining.

this is honestly such an absurd take, not everyone is on a computer 24/7. It's a game, it shouldnt be treated as a job.

 

[Dusk]

this is honestly such an absurd take, not everyone is on a computer 24/7. It's a game, it shouldnt be treated as a job.

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.

 

[Sceptre]

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.

Whilst I disagree with this suggestion entirely, this is an abhorrent take to have.

 

[Walter532]

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.

This game should not be a priority for anyone and if it is that's a whole other issue.

 

[Broda]

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.

You need to rethink some things if thats your POV.

Real Life -> Video Game

Seriously, this is an awful awful take on a very simple suggestion.

 

[Broda]

To refocus onto the suggestion at hand:

I removed all activity requirements for ISD Inspector/Commissioner when I was DoISD. Instead, I replaced it with monitoring engagement and roleplay partaken in. ISD SURGED in activity because it didn't feel like a second fucking job.

I think it is time the playerbase as a whole re-evaluate their over-investment into the server. I've seen players come and go due to "stress" and being "overworked" on a fucking roleplay server. This is just purely unacceptable. This is a game. We can roleplay and explore fun stories, not second job management simulator.

If you want an experience like that then go here: https://uk.indeed.com/

 

[Dusk]

Again if you're finding that 6 hours of your time a week is too much, you need to step away from video games and focus on your real life lmao
If you can't find a balance between the both one is more important than another. I work 10-13 hours a day, I find a perfectly reasonable amount of time for everything I enjoy in my life.


If you can't that's a you problem, not a Civil Networks problem.

 

[Sceptre]

Again if you're finding that 6 hours of your time a week is too much, you need to step away from video games and focus on your real life lmao
If you can't find a balance between the both one is more important than another. I work 10-13 hours a day, I find a perfectly reasonable amount of time for everything I enjoy in my life.


If you can't that's a you problem, not a Civil Networks problem.

ah yes, so i've heard.. the famous "video game job" vs "real life job" balance

 

[Langstädtler]

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.

People also have commute and work or have other hobbies making the time they can play gmod far lower.

 

[Dusk]

People also have commute and work or have other hobbies making the time they can play gmod far lower.

I drive on average 2650 miles a month for my work as well.
6 hours a week is 52 minutes per day. That's crazy you guys are complaining about only playing 52 minutes per day isn't enough time for you to enjoy a game. Again, game/life balance, not my problem its a you problem.

 

[Evil]

If you can’t find 6 hours out of the 168 in a week, then let’s be honest, you’re probably not as committed to this as you think. Don’t blame the time. Just admit it’s not a priority for you.