Content Suggestion Reverse bodycam jobs change and reduce level to dispense

[Jack Raider]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Adds back the bodycam to jobs before todays change.
Reduces Clearance Level needed to dispense it from 2 --> 1

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
No.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- QoL
- Bodycams are being used properly and don't have to be dispensed everytime you respawn.
- it just makes sense that every foundation personnel would have a bodycam
- CL1 personnel can report flc breaks and such

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Reversing a recent change.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It just does not make sense to remove the bodycam from most jobs and is only going to make peoples lifes harder with close to none positives - people don't like this change as it can be seen by reactions under it.
Also, it doesn't make sense for CL1 to be unable to report a crime because they can't dispense a bodycam.

 

[Shrunkinmole]

real and true +Support

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

Super + Support

CL1 can not make any report to ISD with a clip because body cams are locked behind cl2!!!

 

[Wolff]

Massive +Support​

 

[Tryolas_1919]

-support

 

[Zen]

+Support
The newest change is just absurd. "enhance RP" by forcing you to go to a dispenser every time you spawn??? What RP is there in that interaction???

 

[Emilia Foddg]

The change note seems very strange to me:

This was voted on by Content Team, the purpose of this was to make players to pick up body cameras and enhance RP

...How exactly is making ISD RP harder and forcing everyone to get bodycams from dispensers an enhancement to RP? Make no mistake, I've pushed bullshit RP enhancements in the past, ask Event Team - But if this qualifies as an RP enhancement, I should be allowed to do whatever the fuck I want because clearly the sky's the limit.

I should not be the voice of reason here.
+Support

 

[Niox]

+Support
-im fine with the new bodycams, but what is this change man

 

[Sneefo]

+support
Playing janitor i was unable to report an individual destroying my vacuum over and over because bodycam is cl2

 

[Pyrite]

Real Shit.

 

[YandereMuffin]

I want to make people aware here what the bodycam change was written as:

Regular Bodycam
- All MTF roles (except AO Specialists)
- All GENSEC
- Combat Medics
- All CL4+
- All CI
- All GOC
- Rangers

Covert Bodycam
- All of ISD
- AO Specialists
- DEA
- ECA/OSA
- O5/EC
- CI Deep Covers
- GOC Assessment Team

to:

- ISD,
- DEA (Except field agent),
- ECA/OSA,
- AO Specialist,
- Nu-7 Specialist

I do think the original list is perhaps a bit big such as: O5/EC? All CL4? All GOC/CI? All GENSEC? All MTF?

But I do think the secondary list is missing a fair few, with some of my personal ones really being the CI/GOC Deep Covers and Rangers - both of these would be (seemingly?) unable to get the body cameras needed for their jobs (CI/GOC should have covert, rangers should have normal) as they cannot get their necessary one from any dispensers.

I simply don't understand how this would increase RP other than in a mild way of needing to say "Yes I saw the thing happen, but I forgot to dispense a bodycam so don't have proof".

Although body cams are still a very new thing, and I am 100% certain who spawns with it and how it works/will be dispensed will be looked at in the near future.

 

[Welper]

The only benefit l have seen argued of the bodycam change itself is very weak.
+Support
If you're going to make something worse, at least let everyone use it conveniently.

 

[Dusk]

I'm not against the bodycam update itself, but the boundary between immersive roleplay and video game mechanics is rapidly fading as we keep pushing unnecessary realism into areas that don't really require it. If a job demands a bodycam, it should simply include one by default. This change is ultimately cosmetic, designed to address clip-related issues, but adding extra steps to something so straightforward feels a bit silly.

+Support for bodycams
+Support to having them on everyone, and dispensed to those that won't require it as much

 

[Guts]

I should be allowed to do whatever the fuck I want because clearly the sky's the limit.

you are

so long as its enjoyable for everyone

fuck the rules

give me anarchy

 

[Emilia Foddg]

I do think the original list is perhaps a bit big such as: O5/EC? All CL4? All GOC/CI? All GENSEC? All MTF?

But I do think the secondary list is missing a fair few, with some of my personal ones really being the CI/GOC Deep Covers and Rangers - both of these would be (seemingly?) unable to get the body cameras needed for their jobs (CI/GOC should have covert, rangers should have normal) as they cannot get their necessary one from any dispensers.

I simply don't understand how this would increase RP other than in a mild way of needing to say "Yes I saw the thing happen, but I forgot to dispense a bodycam so don't have proof".

Although body cams are still a very new thing, and I am 100% certain who spawns with it and how it works/will be dispensed will be looked at in the near future.

IMO it would make sense for AO & O5/EC not to spawn with covert bodycams if there was some other way to get them.

But putting it in the regular dispenser behind a clearance level feels too accessible.

I think what we need here is a second tier of dispenser that only exists in certain locations and additionally contains some things that should be reasonably harder to get.

 

[MaxoMaxoMaxo]

+support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

The change was just reverted with an announcement that additionally stated the intention to make the normal bodycams CL1 from a dispenser, at a later date.

 

[Pyrite]

New changelog is still not satisfactory, wish for it to go back to how it was before the changelogs today:

 

[Change Z. "Somebody"]

+support

 

[Snake]

The change was just reverted with an announcement that additionally stated the intention to make the normal bodycams CL1 from a dispenser, at a later date.

This is just waiting on someone with access to change the number from a 2 to a 1