Content Suggestion SCU override access for primary and secondary bulks

[Abaddon]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion would add SCU to be able to override the bulks at upper primary and lower primary HCZ.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe no one has suggested this, not to my knowledge

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
1. If there are not current or active CL4 on site during a early breach, SCU can open the bulks to allow quick containment of the breached SCP
2. It will allow quick access to primary or secondary bulk in general even if CL4 are on site but can't get there in quick succession due to them being busy or preoccupied
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
There is a chance the some SCU that are new to the job could possibly abuse it.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I believe this would be a great opportunity for SCU to prove themselves worthy of having an override access for primary and secondary bulk heads for quick containment of the breached SCP'S, I also think this would help in the long run incase a CL4 can not come and open them either due to them being busy or them being AFK and not responding to coms. I have had experience waiting long times at a bulk for a cl4 personal to open them especially during the low server counts, and during those time a breach has occurred and during those times about a 30 min to 1 hour breach has occurred. The only time we should not override is if a cl4 personal is on stand by and they open the bulks or if the bulks are already open for people to go RC the breached SCP'S.

 

[Welper]

- Support for the same reason that I say any time someone does a suggestion like this.
We can barely trust CL4's to open the BD responsibly, with me seeing quite a couple instances in which people just rush through the door no questions asked because... they can, which lead to SCP's moving up, I don't think CL3's are any more trustworthy, even if they are CU's.

 

[Sule Goodman]

+ / - Support

In terms of E-11 having Override its LCPLs+. With SCUs i don't think we could ALWAYS trust them as theres no structure really. Anyone can flag on assuming they have the proper requirements. Seeing theres no direct communication between CUs and E-11, I don't think them having override to a bulks is a bad idea... BUT i think if its properly worked in a way, it could be pulled off.

 

[Dusk]

-Support

 

[dougdougjones]

+Support. As an SCU this would help tremendously. People say CL3s ain’t trust worthy or this or that. But regardless I’ve had multiple times in the last week where I was stuck for 10 minutes or more waiting for a CL4 to come open it. I know it’s an unrealistic dream but I hope it happens.

 

[dougdougjones]

+ / - Support

In terms of E-11 having Override its LCPLs+. With SCUs i don't think we could ALWAYS trust them as theres no structure really. Anyone can flag on assuming they have the proper requirements. Seeing theres no direct communication between CUs and E-11, I don't think them having override to a bulks is a bad idea... BUT i think if it’s properly worked in a way, it could be pulled off.

Anytime I’m on SCU there’s constant contact with us and E-11. Guess we need to start whitelisting SCUs or something

 

[casseno1]

-Support

 

[Dobbz]

-Support
Yes this would be very helpful during breaches but also SCUs are a non whitelisted job so minges can get easy access to a CL4.

 

[Ganch]

-Support
Yes this would be very helpful during breaches but also SCUs are a non whitelisted job so minges can get easy access to a CL4.

this is not a suggestion to give them cl4 cards, its to give them override for the bulkheads at hcz primary

by your logic tech experts also have cl4 since htey have override for electricals which are cl4

 

[Evil]

-support
SCU is not e11

 

[Dan Roth]

+support
SCU needs to be able to access HCZ and as SCU is whitelisted i dont see what the problem is their job in the foundation is to contain scps and e-11 can not be trusted to do the job alone thats why we have SCU to help e-11 when e-11 lacks competence

 

[fyzar]

+support
SCU needs to be able to access HCZ and as SCU is whitelisted

scu isnt whitelisted?

 

[Kaiser Walker]

-Support
SCU's are not regulated enough to get bd clearance, there's a reason that kinda power is locked behind whitelisted roles, MTF, and CL4's.
SCU's need authorization to patrol Upper HCZ [They cannot patrol lower] this would allow them the chance to sneak past E11's when E11 is not allowing them in.

 

[Sule Goodman]

scu isnt whitelisted?

Nope, just need level 15 on a few things + HWL and RCL

 

[Kaiser Walker]

Nope, just need level 15 on a few things + HWL and RCL

Think he was referring to the other guy claiming it to be whitelisted

 

[ripjaw567]

+support
SCU needs to be able to access HCZ and as SCU is whitelisted i dont see what the problem is their job in the foundation is to contain scps and e-11 can not be trusted to do the job alone thats why we have SCU to help e-11 when e-11 lacks competence

SCU is NOT whitelisted bro...

Anyways -support from me:
- There is no reason SCU needs bulkhead access, yes they assist with the breaches, their first focus is LCZ and setting up defenses, as a member of E-11, when I request SCU support I sit by the bulks to let them in, so unless I have died to an SCP, they have access as needed.

I do think however, working on inter-department communication with SCU to determine effective methods to quickly get them inside if assistance is needed should be looked at but that's for us to figure out in-game not in a suggestion

 

[Emilia Foddg]

No, lmao

The only way I can see this being permissible is if this could be done per person (i.e. based on the specific person that's on that job - something like per SteamID, maybe?) and then it's managed ICly with some kind of trustees whitelist - Like something like if they were a past CL4 holder, esp. a combative. That might be a good way to do it. That way this could also be more manageable per-server.

Aside from what I raise above,
-Support

 

[Marvin Garden]

override bad, zone clearance good, wait for site-9