What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This post suggests the removal of the indestructible windows from the two towers in Foundation Surface Base; preventing it's usage to get easy kills across surface.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
It is most likely that some people have previously made a similar suggestions regarding that the towers to be 100% removed, which I think is a bit too extreme. The towers do (and should) serve as a decent buffer against any CI that gets too close, but it shouldn't give an indestructible see-through advantage to the users, especially with how far it can see. I believe that the unique solution of removing the indestructible windows has not yet been suggested.
TO NOTE: This video should show an example of the current usage of these windows in towers, and how much of an insane advantage it gives to any user (such as me) to snipe across the map and fend off entire CI groups.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
This may make surface combat just slightly more tolerable and fair for both sides, albeit it does handicap Foundation a decent amount. It will at the very least prevent the one-sided use of these windows during combat.
This will also HOPEFULLY encourage SOPs to properly roam, and not rely on the towers to pick off CI all the way from the Lakehouse Area without some sort of ability for CI to easily fight back if they do get shot from these towers.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
This is definitely something that only provides an advantage to CI/GOC, and gives very little benefits to Foundation. This WILL draw criticism from Nu-7 and DEA players, since these towers do actually help with preventing spawncamping from CI. However, I believe this small change can at least remove the abusable aspects of the towers, while personnel can still use them to fend off any CI too close to our base.
Given the recent suggestions revolving around Nu-7 (and most of them being denied), this will be an extremely unpleasant change for them if this gets approved, and may feel targeted towards them. I do feel sorry for how much Nu-7 wants some improvements, while I try to kneecap them with the technical nerf of the twin towers. However, I ask Nu-7 mains to understand that this suggestion is not entirely directed at them, and to keep the context of other Nu-7 suggestions being denied separate from this suggestion. Please note that I am the Director of DEA as I am writing this, so I do also have a stake in Surface Operations/Combat. I do believe that this suggestion should at least help slightly improve surface gameplay for both CI and Foundation.
The nerfing of the towers may cause more spawncamping from CI. This is a reasonable expectation, but server rules regarding spawnkilling should at least give Foundation a reasonable opportunity to fight back against any potential spawncamping, especially if they're close enough to be seen from inside courtyard/gates area. In addition, SOPs will still have one opportunity to shoot out from towers before getting shot back, which I think is still a significant advantage, especially with how much of the surface they cover.
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
As it stands, it is far too easy to abuse these towers to gain a significant advantage over combatting CI, even when they're not spawncamping (You can tell in the video I can easily shoot MUCH farther out than reasonable), and although this might be unfair for Foundation, I still do think that this suggestion will benefit everyone in the long run, and should overall improve surface combat health in the future. However, at the same time, I will not be surprised if this suggestion gets denied, as there are many variables at play for making such small changes in the name of "balance". I only request that developers at least consider the option, and hope to hear further feedback soon.
This post suggests the removal of the indestructible windows from the two towers in Foundation Surface Base; preventing it's usage to get easy kills across surface.
Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
It is most likely that some people have previously made a similar suggestions regarding that the towers to be 100% removed, which I think is a bit too extreme. The towers do (and should) serve as a decent buffer against any CI that gets too close, but it shouldn't give an indestructible see-through advantage to the users, especially with how far it can see. I believe that the unique solution of removing the indestructible windows has not yet been suggested.
TO NOTE: This video should show an example of the current usage of these windows in towers, and how much of an insane advantage it gives to any user (such as me) to snipe across the map and fend off entire CI groups.
Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
This may make surface combat just slightly more tolerable and fair for both sides, albeit it does handicap Foundation a decent amount. It will at the very least prevent the one-sided use of these windows during combat.
This will also HOPEFULLY encourage SOPs to properly roam, and not rely on the towers to pick off CI all the way from the Lakehouse Area without some sort of ability for CI to easily fight back if they do get shot from these towers.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
This is definitely something that only provides an advantage to CI/GOC, and gives very little benefits to Foundation. This WILL draw criticism from Nu-7 and DEA players, since these towers do actually help with preventing spawncamping from CI. However, I believe this small change can at least remove the abusable aspects of the towers, while personnel can still use them to fend off any CI too close to our base.
Given the recent suggestions revolving around Nu-7 (and most of them being denied), this will be an extremely unpleasant change for them if this gets approved, and may feel targeted towards them. I do feel sorry for how much Nu-7 wants some improvements, while I try to kneecap them with the technical nerf of the twin towers. However, I ask Nu-7 mains to understand that this suggestion is not entirely directed at them, and to keep the context of other Nu-7 suggestions being denied separate from this suggestion. Please note that I am the Director of DEA as I am writing this, so I do also have a stake in Surface Operations/Combat. I do believe that this suggestion should at least help slightly improve surface gameplay for both CI and Foundation.
The nerfing of the towers may cause more spawncamping from CI. This is a reasonable expectation, but server rules regarding spawnkilling should at least give Foundation a reasonable opportunity to fight back against any potential spawncamping, especially if they're close enough to be seen from inside courtyard/gates area. In addition, SOPs will still have one opportunity to shoot out from towers before getting shot back, which I think is still a significant advantage, especially with how much of the surface they cover.
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
As it stands, it is far too easy to abuse these towers to gain a significant advantage over combatting CI, even when they're not spawncamping (You can tell in the video I can easily shoot MUCH farther out than reasonable), and although this might be unfair for Foundation, I still do think that this suggestion will benefit everyone in the long run, and should overall improve surface combat health in the future. However, at the same time, I will not be surprised if this suggestion gets denied, as there are many variables at play for making such small changes in the name of "balance". I only request that developers at least consider the option, and hope to hear further feedback soon.
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