Denied Supply Closet Disguises

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Rice Cooker

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Mar 20, 2022
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What does this suggestion change/add/remove?
This suggestion aims to introduce an entity in the supply closets around the foundation that has a chance to give players who interact with it (e.g., d-class, parawatch, ci) a "spare" foundation uniform. The possibility of getting a disguise will have to be random, restricted from the foundation and other jobs, and accessing the entity will have to be based on a cool down. This disguise should not be detectable by Kant counters or scramblers as this is not a disguise from an SCP--only cameras and other in-character forms of confirmation (e.g., id checking, code-word).

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
Allows non-foundation persons the possibility to find disguises without having to go to a centralized location (914) that foundation can immediately assault. Similarly, by mitigating detection from kant counters and scramblers, the disguises may be more robust and give the non-foundation person more time before being discovered.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Introduces a way for non-foundation persons to disguise that is far easier to access and much harder to regulate.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted?
This suggestion is mainly in response to Harry Chich's suggestion to repeal the superadmin ruling barring parawatch from using 914. Nevertheless, this suggestion would introduce a way for all non-foundation persons to gain a disguise without 914, however far less reliable.

One of the limitations for all non-foundation persons who are trying to disguise is that they are limited to 914 if they don't have a disguise card. Thus, in response to foreign access to the foundation (e.g., ci raiding or parawatch investigating), foundation MTF and other armed staff flood 914 to prevent the intruder from using 914. This suggestion is mainly focused to promote rp by allowing parawatch a means of disguising in the foundation after following the superadmin ruling prohibited them from using 914. Introducing random chance into the process means that parawatch have something that allows them to not be discovered immediately, but they can not abuse external knowledge as much because of the random possibility. For other actors like ci and d-class, they may be less concerned about rp, but they can still benefit from having an alternate means of disguising as 914 is always the focus if the foundation is concerned about its use.
As with anything, there is a possibility for this to be abused if it was introduced. However, by having the possibility of getting a disguise as random, players will not always be successful in getting a disguise even if they already know where the supply closets are. This means that they will have to explore multiple supply closets or resort to 914 if they want a disguise.

Hopefully, considering the positives and negatives, this suggestion will introduce a feature that offers players more options to acquire disguises and give them more opportunities to engage in RP situations without introducing something that is too impactful or one-sided into the server.
 
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Neat change if this is counterbalanced by a remarkably low chance to obtain a disguise, say, 10% to 25% for each closet, with a good cooldown between. Non-anomalous disguises can be VERY powerful for all parties looking to do harm against the Foundation, more so than anomalous disguises, and they should remain heavily restricted.
 

NoiseyZeke

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Jun 22, 2023
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If some parameters can be put in place then it will be very useful.
parameters could be:
- Certain Areas = Certain Disguises
- Cooldown timer to reduce abuse
- Donation perms access to limit players abilities to prevent Newbie Baddies from accessing
- Class/Group Specific roles allowed to access
 

Babalowa

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May 17, 2022
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+SUPPORT
BUT
- Should be in a relatively difficult location such as Core Sector, Security Sector and Maybe in one of the HCZ fuse box rooms.
- Should only give 'Site Staff' disguises.
- Disguises should not be 'perfect' someone should be able to /me inspect it and /roll 100 to check if they're disguised.
 
Dec 21, 2021
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With the correct balancing this would be fine.

  • Have a small amount of them in hard to find/access places, behind a cl2 door at least, otherwise d-class could literally just get a disguise with no pretences.
  • Have rules around how they could be used, so that minges dont just get a disguise and start minging with it.
  • Cooldown timer
  • Possibly donator-exclusive thing, because otherwise any chef could just pull up with a fuckin site manager disguise
  • Set up so that the jobs with fewer slots have fewer uniforms, naturally, there are not gonna be 50 spare CoS disguises. (Basically fewer uniforms just means lower chance of getting)
 

Simply

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Dec 19, 2022
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Huge +sapport
Would be great, I think HCZ has a supply's closet and I think that would be a perfect fit in their or maybe add a small room in ez
 

John Dear

Civil Gamers Expert
Aug 14, 2021
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I could see this working. Like others said the balancing needs to be figured out but it would be a lot better then just 914.

Right now if a mass amount of d-class escape you just blast everyone in 914 and you are done. This change gives them a chance to hide somewhere else and maybe find a uniform.
 

Rushi

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May 23, 2022
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Suggestion Denied
Hi @Rice Cooker,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion because of the following reasons: Obviously, this suggestion is more towards the Parawatch but, adding this would require the closet to be in a secure location and would therefore, be sort of pointless as the Parawatch would very likely not be able to make it there anyways. In the meantime, we will get some other ideas Parawatch in order to give it another type of changes.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​
 
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