Denied Surface Objectives drops keycards

[Asura]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
It adds a chance for surface objectives to drop keycards from CL2-CL4 Foundation cards for CI and the opposite for other factions.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not that I am aware of.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
CI won't waste their raids on keycards, and holding an area for an extended period just so they can collect keycards.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
I am not aware of any, as CI will still have the chance to raid for keycards if they wish to.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
This change would reduce the frequency of extended keycards raids, for example holding areas like Garage or EZ, which neither side seems to enjoy. Currently, CI Have to do these raids to secure keycards, for their actual raids later in the day.

 

[Sceptre]

+ Support
Mitigates the need for keycard raids which are detrimental to combative gameplay loop health

 

[Zen]

-Support
This seems like it would prevent factions from fairly protecting their keycards from theft

 

[Niox]

CL2 keycards are such a meme

-Support
This seems like it would prevent factions from fairly protecting their keycards from theft

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+/-Neutral
-I see both sides tbh. Yes it does make life easier to do less keycard raids, but it makes it far easier to gain the other groups keycards.

And we can gain keycards for SOP on surface anyways, so this seems a bit unneeded.
(I also like weapon upgrades more)

 

[Jam]

+support

aslong as this drop is kept relatively rare, I totally agree with it. Gives factions more stake to actually respond to these missions.

 

[Emilia Foddg]

-/+ Neutral
I get the need, but I also get the problem. As others have said, I think this would need to be rare.

 

[Tenebraeum]

- Minimal Support

Even though there is a fundamental issue with constant raiding for keycards, I do not believe this would be the best way to go about such an implementation. Right track, right train, but just the wrong passengers.

 

[YandereMuffin]

I see no reason anyone doing a surface mission cannot also kill the other people on surface to get keycards, and I think any raid that doesnt reduce RP is a good raid, and keycard raids are mostly just combatives vs combatives.

 

[Tenebraeum]

I see no reason anyone doing a surface mission cannot also kill the other people on surface to get keycards

I believe the whole thing with the suggestion is the prize for completing an objective, as opposed to just being able to kill others on surface for the keycards. From what I gather it's more when the objective is completed, there is a sudden acquisition of keycards from another's faction in some form.

 

[saskyc]

-Support
- Missions are OOC and would be stupid to get keycards from this.

 

[cityismy]

Missions are OOC

They are not, actions that are done during cmissions are fully in character but may not affect relations

 

[Aaron Hench]

-Support
First, it wouldn't make sense.
Second, it isn't supposed to be easy for CI to raid.

 

[Scott 'Prism' Grey]

+support
-i think this could be framed as a shipment to foundation mission which can explain the keycards
-this would encourage surface combat from SOP which they barley do at times

but i think it needs guardrails like a certain number of sop being online and it being limited to cl3 cards maybe

 

[Aaron Hench]

+support
-i think this could be framed as a shipment to foundation mission which can explain the keycards
-this would encourage surface combat from SOP which they barley do at times

but i think it needs guardrails like a certain number of sop being online and it being limited to cl3 cards maybe

This suggestion would actually make this better. If it was a specific mission, with a certain amount of SOP needed to activate the trigger for it, then that would be fine.

BUT I do NOT support EVERY single mission dropping keycards.

 

[Verlocity]

Suggestion Denied

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Hi @Asura ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

Reasons: We believe that this is not needed and would be unbalanced in off hours.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​