Switch Type Green to Lower HCZ

['Dutch']

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Basically switch the Type Greens to lower HCZ instead of them being in Upper HCZ.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Not that I am aware.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
- Would be more logical (as the TG's are very strong in my opinion).
- Would reduce the amount of roleplay disrupted in LCZ (This would mean that they have to go trough atleast 1 blastdoor, instead of bullet freezing and going trough secondary straight into LCZ).

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Would be a bit harder to breach by CI (but they already get to lower HCZ pretty easily with a keycard).
- Could possibly give less roleplay to the TG's in the form of tests as it is less accesable.
- Would need to add a room in LHCZ or swap out SCP chamber locations (dev time).
- They could breach tool other SCP's in LHCZ quicker than usual.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
The TG's are very strong in my opinion and are more scary than a 7722 or 106 breach. They have alot of power they can use, and can counter reality anchors if played well. It would seem logical that such a strong SCP would be located deeper into HCZ, instead of them being in the upper part.

(P.s. if you do -support, please give some reasonings so I can understand your view).

 

[Langstädtler]

There are many strong SCPs which should be in LHCZ, like 8837 or 096.
And the misc room is technicly the hardest to Breach SCPs out of since it is directly in front of E-11 Spawn. Which is why 082 is barely breached out even throught its very strong.
So overall i Disagree TGs are the hardest to breach there.
-Support

 

[Niox]

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- Would be a bit harder to breach by CI (but they already get to lower HCZ pretty easily with a keycard).

I actually think it'd be easy, now that it's not in front of E-11 bunks, and there would now only be 1 way to push in from.
+/-Neutral

 

[Zack Baker]

+support

 

[Emilia Foddg]

-Support
TGs are currently in one of the literal hardest locations to breach any SCP. If anything, I would suggest moving 082 out, because the risk to reward ratio is ungodly low. EDIT: 082, not 087 lmao. But also move 087 anyway because it's very hard to breach and I think 087 should be breached more, too

I get the sentiment, but clearly you were not thinking about the fact that this is basically directly outside E-11 spawn. This specifically is a skill issue. If TGs are being hacked out easily, then there's something wrong with the regiment What did you guys do to my home

Things like regular breach and breach queue stuff, I can sorta see? If it has a window to get out without running into E-11 , it can kinda cause a little more damage than it reasonably should be able to - But really in every circumstance that, even though it shouldn't be a priority compared to other SCPs, the fact that it is, again, right outside E-11 spawn, should be weaved decently into actual breach protocol (and to my recollection when I was in the regiment, it was).

I'm really trying to see things your way, but I can only see this one glaring issue that permeates every angle I try to approach this from.

 

[James V]

-support
Literally outside E-11 bunks - come on

 

['Dutch']

I see alot of people are talking about a CI breach, but I am more so focused on the natural breaches. They can really easily make it to LCZ (and especially when CL4 dont close the secondary BD, wich is I know a 'skill issue').

 

[James V]

I see alot of people are talking about a CI breach, but I am more so focused on the natural breaches. They can really easily make it to LCZ (and especially when CL4 dont close the secondary BD, wich is I know a 'skill issue').

Where / who would you recommend they move to

 

[Emilia Foddg]

I see alot of people are talking about a CI breach, but I am more so focused on the natural breaches. They can really easily make it to LCZ (and especially when CL4 dont close the secondary BD, wich is I know a 'skill issue').

...If there's a natural breach, surely it would make sense to, if you are spawning or are otherwise in the area, surely the instinct is to check the things near spawn, yes?

I guess the only real angle you have here is the fact that E-11 have two spawns - With the HCZ spawn having another exit that bypasses that area, so it's not guaranteed that everyone will funnel through that area.