Denied (UK) Dea Operative Update

[Pew pew]

What does this suggestion change:
Give dea operative a reason to be actually played i know that it gives early access to dea but i feel like me and a few others would also want it to have a gun that is unique to Lower down players in dea for example A m4a1 sopmopd block 2 or the AS-VAL either put in the utilty or the attack section whichever one fits the role better the asval because nu-7 use to get it (ive been handed a m4a1 sopmod block 2 by nu-7 on multiple occasions or the asval due to it being already implemented with dea department) This could be balanced by either giving ci a buff on a gun that isnt already overused eg their base gun ak47 or a gun within one of their Whitelisted departments.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Yes the loadout change that was implemented about 1 months ago for multiple dea jobs but this is just for 1 specfic role compared to multiple.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
it would make people that main dea but never get the credits you need to rank up have a reason to play or atleast pay to play.
Alongside that people would actually sorta enjoy getting on dea more.
Might actually give us a solid fight against ci jugg as it takes like 3 qbz mags to fully kill him.
Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Would make this job more popular then other dea jobs that get worse guns
Would maybe overpopularize dea(low chance) (this would be too hard on the higher up team)
Would just ruin deas "balanced" loadouts.
Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Based on the postivies and negatives this suggestion should be accepted because dea is a very much dead department and it might bring some people back to our department alongside actually giving us more quality (we are more combative then nu-7 atm)

 

[Guts]

 

[Tylenol Smith]

Alr ive updated the suggestion

It still seems low effort if you just gonna do 1 paragraph Atleast try and explain in like clear bullet points. You suggest abunch of guns now but how do you address balancing with those guns? I’m not seeing clear things to look at here to decide. Also maybe it’s just a client side glitch I’m having but it looks like you never finished your response to the last part…

 

[Pew pew]

It still seems low effort if you just gonna do 1 paragraph Atleast try and explain in like clear bullet points. You suggest abunch of guns now but how do you address balancing with those guns? I’m not seeing clear things to look at here to decide. Also maybe it’s just a client side glitch I’m having but it looks like you never finished your response to the last part…

Thank you so much sorry for what i said about the fake -1 you actually have helped me out so much with this suggestion (This is not sarcasam) also thank you for notfiying me about the last part it seems i forgot to finish it.

 

[Joe "Enoch"]

-Support

Just because its a paid role does not mean it needs to be strong. The server is not meant to be p2w, paying allows for convinces not op gear. Yes there are things that you can get from VIPs that are strong but getting VIP does not mean that all roles that are locked behind the pay wall get the best gear in the server. Most good gear is locked behind advancing through the server either through joining an MTF or getting a CL4 roles. (as it should be)

 

[Tylenol Smith]

-Support

Just because its a paid role does not mean it needs to be strong. The server is not meant to be p2w, paying allows for convinces not op gear. Yes there are things that you can get from VIPs that are strong but getting VIP does not mean that all roles that are locked behind the pay wall get the best gear in the server. Most good gear is locked behind advancing through the server either through joining an MTF or getting a CL4 roles. (as it should be)

I mean the server is p2w idk what u mean… but I agree just cuz you pay for it doesn’t mean it should be OP

 

[Guts]

the server is p2w

give me an example of how paying for stuff on the server grants you a benefit that puts you above others in terms of roleplaying on the server

 

[Tylenol Smith]

give me an example of how paying for stuff on the server grants you a benefit that puts you above others in terms of roleplaying on the server

Juggernaut and deep covers. I mean idk what u mean by winning RP but there is jobs for scps that u can do more RP with I guess. Also the Ranger job is the only surface combative job so idk how it can’t be considered p2w

 

[Guts]

Juggernaut and deep covers

optional jobs, by no means a must to own

idk what u mean by winning RP

figured as much when i read the response

but there is jobs for scps that u can do more RP with

those being

Also the Ranger job is the only surface combative job so idk how it can’t be considered p2w

you quite literally have the entire chaos insurgency and goc, both of which are surface combatives

 

[Archangel]

I've not been playing CN For a while now, but i will tell you from experience and from what i have learned.

DEA is not a combat department, It is a scouting and intelligence gathering department

There have been tens of other suggestions just like this one in order to give DEA better weapons but most if not all have been denied for that same reason i stated above.

Besides, Weapons shouldn't be incentives to join other MTFs/Departments.

i miss dea.

 

[Tylenol Smith]

optional jobs, by no means a must to own



figured as much when i read the response



those being



you quite literally have the entire chaos insurgency and goc, both of which are surface combatives

ok so you asked for scp jobs. 682,079, and 966 are all good for RP. 966 and 079 mainly but 682 is a character to say the least. Also P2W is optional unless its entirely blocked behind a pay wall to play. And ranger is the only combative civilian job.

 

[Guts]

Also P2W is optional unless its entirely blocked behind a pay wall to play

right so youre saying that out of all the scp jobs, you can't roleplay as them because you have to pay to play as 682 which then allows you to roleplay the other scps with a benefit the purchase of 682 apparently brings you?

i think you dont understand the meaning behind pay to win, as all of the packages in the store are optional, not a must if you want to do something on the server

And ranger is the only combative civilian job.

because civilians are not meant to be combative in the first place? You're a civilian, you're meant to roleplay and avoid getting into combative scenarios

paying for 682 does not net you a win or a huge benefit by buying the package, it simply allows you to play as 682 and thats it. If you suck at playing him, would you think of it as pay to lose?

your entire post is made out of the premise that 'hur i cant afford, or want to pay, so its definitely p2w'

the focus of the server is not combat and was never meant to be combat, it's roleplay - which it, quite frankly, has deviated from in the past few years - just because you suck ass at roleplaying and consider buying job-specific packages as them giving you the upper hand in fights or roleplay, does not mean that they are pay to win - because they give you neither

 

[Pew pew]

I've not been playing CN For a while now, but i will tell you from experience and from what i have learned.

DEA is not a combat department, It is a scouting and intelligence gathering department

There have been tens of other suggestions just like this one in order to give DEA better weapons but most if not all have been denied for that same reason i stated above.

Besides, Weapons shouldn't be incentives to join other MTFs/Departments.

i miss dea.

(the whole reason a-1 mainly gets ppl is cause ofc they will get a cl4 and also they get the best guns on CN)(i also agree on the part of intelligence gathering its just that atm when they now always do a d-block siege the UMP Or l85 cant do anything to atleast damage the CI)

 

[Snake]

Suggestion Denied

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Hi @Pew pew ,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.
The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reasons.

This isn't needed. DEA have had several loudout changes over the course of the year and there's a reason this hasn't been changed. Operative and Agent are supposed to be equal.

Your suggestion will now be locked and marked as denied.​