[UK] Lucas Doyle's ECM Application

[James V]

I have edited my application to the interest of the replies of some.

Secondly you are playing the same character Lucas Doyle which firstly is pretty lazy to not make a new one since you have had that character for a long time and secondly that same character during his time as Site Director outwardly expressed disinterest in the EC as well as MTF O-1. Lastly during your time as Site Director you had approached Omega-1 twice for some sort of RP story lines and both of them resulted in nothing. These are the reason I will be giving you a minus support not to mention some of the other reasons listed by others.

This comment specifically has come to my attention mostly, I do not understand how it has been declared lazy to use my Site Director character for elevation to the Ethics Committee as this is something quite common in lore. Also, the expressing disinterest in EC and O-1 is completely absurd, apologies if that seems argumentative I do not mean it that way at all, because I have been perfectly open with working with both Omega-1 and EC and have done many times as Site Director, whether that was working with and being available for Elijah Patel in a storyline or furthering the interests of Omega-1 who wished to dive into Departments that they believed were failed. This was done via escalation to the Ethics Committee however was dried up when I went asking for updates.

And if anything, I was going to be expecting comments for working against Alpha-1 as that was the majority of my quarrels in RP with both of the AOs.

If there are anymore questions please feel free to send them to me on discord (jamesbrum). Thanks all for the feedback, it has been noted.

 

[Cloudyy]

+/- SUPPORT

I am going to be honest, I haven't interacted with you enough to form a formal opinion. Though I have a few things to say and as an Omega-1 I feel like I should at least say something.

First off, I personally didn't see you doing much as SD. Not sure how much you did behind the scenes or how much I wouldn't have access to, but I see that is an opinion that I do not hold alone. Moreover, one of the policy updates you did regarding combative sampling was really annoying to me and I do not personally see a point in it but I digress.

My few interactions that I've had with you as ISD I didn't particularly enjoy your presence but I didn't necessarily mind it either, so no complaints from me when it comes to that.

I really hope you prove those doubting your candidature wrong, including me. You have all the necessary experience and I wish you best of luck with your application.

 

['Revenant'/Arno 'Hermes']

I want to start off by apologising, my remark about using the same character is lazy stemmed from the characters alleged disinterest in the EC and O-1 and I take back that statement.

Also, the expressing disinterest in EC and O-1 is completely absurd, apologies if that seems argumentative I do not mean it that way at all, because I have been perfectly open with working with both Omega-1 and EC and have done many times as Site Director, whether that was working with and being available for Elijah Patel in a storyline or furthering the interests of Omega-1 who wished to dive into Departments that they believed were failed. This was done via escalation to the Ethics Committee however was dried up when I went asking for updates.

You are probably wondering where the claim that your character Lucas Doyle isn't a fan of the committee came from. It came from reports of O-1 and ECM that witnessed you being uncooperative for example not handing in your weapons when entering the ECO for a meeting. Furthermore from Omega-1's point of view it seemed like you had been working with the overseers and Alpha-1 a bit too closely. I understand that Site Administration works closer with the overseers rather than the committee but that didn't explain the abnormally frequent visits from O5/A-1 which leads me to my next point.

And if anything, I was going to be expecting comments for working against Alpha-1 as that was the majority of my quarrels in RP with both of the AOs.

Lucas Doyle was never seen working against Alpha-1 and it more or less seemed like he was working with them for the same reason I have listed above. But I can't really say for certain because this was just the point of view of an Omega-1 NCO.

For now I will be changing my -support to a +/- support, leaning towards -support. Good luck on the rest of your application.

 

[Alex Bones]

- support
Won't be stating my reasons publicly but whoever checks these apps is free to message me.
One thing I will add is: You ordered the massacre of ISD over a conversation/possible small arrest as an A1 LT, refused to take the IC punishments and then resigned when it was handled appropriatly.... The things you could order in a CL5 position is terrifying.

I was DoISD at the time of this situation, I was there and I was the person dealing with it.

The incident regarding him gunning down ISD brought a lot of potential RP, being that ISD was treating A-1 like GSD knowing full well that A-1 could do little to nothing to "us" brought back the prespective of fear when it comes to dealing with the "most elite" task force.

Regardless of the situation ending in a gunfight with all of A-1 dead and only a few ISD alive, there was peices of evidence linked to the situation as to which ISD took advantage of alongside the kidnapping and interrogation of an OSA. The outcome of the situation was simple, EC got involved, A-1 apologized and handed several members of their force to be arrested.

Furthermore not allowing him this position for such an incident would not be right, he has had plenty of time reconsidering the situation and outcomes alongside other positions such as SD.

As for my personal opinion on that incident it could have gone a lot smother and possibly without the gun fight which put A-1 and ISD to the brink of war however in my eyes the incident was quite enjoyable. Moving on to the interactions I had with you I can't really say that I've enjoyed them as most of the time I found you abrasive and rude at times and to the point of it being annoying to RP with you however that could full well just have been your character.

Nevertheless good luck!

 

[James V]

I was DoISD at the time of this situation, I was there and I was the person dealing with it.

The incident regarding him gunning down ISD brought a lot of potential RP, being that ISD was treating A-1 like GSD knowing full well that A-1 could do little to nothing to "us" brought back the prespective of fear when it comes to dealing with the "most elite" task force.

Regardless of the situation ending in a gunfight with all of A-1 dead and only a few ISD alive, there was peices of evidence linked to the situation as to which ISD took advantage of alongside the kidnapping and interrogation of an OSA. The outcome of the situation was simple, EC got involved, A-1 apologized and handed several members of their force to be arrested.

Furthermore not allowing him this position for such an incident would not be right, he has had plenty of time reconsidering the situation and outcomes alongside other positions such as SD.

As for my personal opinion on that incident it could have gone a lot smother and possibly without the gun fight which put A-1 and ISD to the brink of war however in my eyes the incident was quite enjoyable. Moving on to the interactions I had with you I can't really say that I've enjoyed them as most of the time I found you abrasive and rude at times and to the point of it being annoying to RP with you however that could full well just have been your character.

Nevertheless good luck!

Ill give some context to this, the name of the character was 'Scourge' at the time which I hope speaks for itself. To also clarify I took a PK for dying in the gunfire.

 

[Julien White]

Weird focus on tribunals for the current state of the Committee and required. Yes it's a main role of the Committee, but at the current moment its not the most important nor most necessary one to fulfil. You also missed off the factor that people aren't committing FLC breaches necessary to require a tribunal all that often, nothing to find if no-ones doing anything.

I've asked a few times, and got similar responses each time, but you didn't seem to do a whole lot when you were Site Director. Sure you did your CL4 Meeting that you said you would, but after that I haven't heard about anything much else, nothing that people can remember. 6 total posts in Foundation Announcements, 4 being SA App reminders, one being a Code Black Procedures reminder announcement, and one being a Sampling Policy reminder. I wouldn't say specifically that SA was restored because of you, but more so alongside you. Of course if you have done stuff more behind the scenes that the people I asked don't know about then I'll change this part and apologise for my comments, but as of now, I can't say you did a whole lot. And we won't mention your time as A-1 LT, because seemingly it hasn't contributed to making you a suitable candidate for ECM. Only seeming so since you only addressed O5, SD and DEA Leadership as experiences benefitting you for this position.

Hosting lectures can be done by ECA's or ECM's, O-1 shouldn't be there to do public speaking, that's not what they're hired to do...
Besides, ECA's are pretty active regardless, I usually see both spots filled when I am playing, so O-1 activity isn't inherently linked to ECA activity. O-1 activity has more to do with engagement from the Committee and taskings they can be doing (Although its mostly just engagement with the server which is sour).

stop with the nonchalant black font

 

[Johnson J. Marauder]

+Support

Evil Site Director

 

[Pyrite]

stop with the nonchalant black font

I'm so nonchalant dude, you don't understand...

 

[Sebastian]

+Support

What else is there to say?... My reasons for +Supporting have already been stated.

 

[Citadel]

Ill give some context to this, the name of the character was 'Scourge' at the time which I hope speaks for itself. To also clarify I took a PK for dying in the gunfire.

Since this situation is being brought up again I’d like to weigh in as someone directly involved on A-1’s side as ‘Inheritor’.

An important detail missed was the presence of O-1 which entered directly backing ISD, this left the entirety of A-1 outgunned and practically in a corner. We were ordered to respond to aggression with the same amount back, so when guns started lifting and one person shot… yeah you get the picture. Overall the day was humiliating for A-1 and an overwhelming loss, but holy fuck was it one of my favourite days on the server. I took heavy inspiration from ‘Scourge’ when forming my own identity in A-1 until I left as a CPT, this kind of RP should be encouraged more often but that’s a whole other convocation.

Overall there were many factors to this so blaming it all on Doyle is wrong, but still more could have been done to avoid it on his part.

On another note, I overall enjoyed your RP as SD, during my as CPT it felt like SA had become a genuine obstacle for once and a threat if provoked in the slightest.

+support

 

['Clank']

An important detail missed was the presence of O-1 which entered directly backing ISD, this left the entirety of A-1 outgunned and practically in a corner.

The humble 2 O-1 LCPL's in the room and ECA. So I wouldn't say it was much of a presence tbh. Considering all of A-1 was there including 2 or 3 CO's. Not leaving any support, just clarifying. Also this happened ages ago

 

[Citadel]

The humble 2 O-1 LCPL's in the room and ECA. So I wouldn't say it was much of a presence tbh. Considering all of A-1 was there including 2 or 3 CO's. Not leaving any support, just clarifying. Also this happened ages ago

By my memory there was not just 2 O-1, more like 4. But regardless of numbers, O-1 still appeared in the middle of a standoff and directly acted against A-1 while there was already a very large amount of ISD being aggressive. Scourge was the only A-1 officer present, the A-1 CO team back then quite literally consisted of 3 officers (not counting COM / LTCOM). One being Tiago at Maj and cigarette at LT who both weren’t there.

This really was a long time ago, personally I’m not sure why it was even brought up but since it is I feel I may as well share what I saw.

 

[Mac Duffy]

+ Support

I have continuously interacted with Doyle ever since my first role on this server in DEA. Great RP'er who has personally helped me grow to where I am today as DoDEA.

Regarding past - supports, I wasn’t around when those situations happened, so I won’t comment on them detailed directly. However, I believe those moments could just show the ability to stand his ground and express their POV confidently and firmly which is a good feature of an FCOM personnel.

I’d love the chance to work with Doyle as an Ethics Committee Assistant, he would be a strong addition to the committee. I would personally enjoy being able to gain experience and guidance from Doyle as an ECM helping me grow in the position as ECA for my further aspirations, Doyle is a very good mentor especially in the absence of past Committee representatives for me to learn from.

 

['Clank']

By my memory there was not just 2 O-1, more like 4. But regardless of numbers, O-1 still appeared in the middle of a standoff and directly acted against A-1 while there was already a very large amount of ISD being aggressive. Scourge was the only A-1 officer present, the A-1 CO team back then quite literally consisted of 3 officers (not counting COM / LTCOM). One being Tiago at Maj and cigarette at LT who both weren’t there.

This really was a long time ago, personally I’m not sure why it was even brought up but since it is I feel I may as well share what I saw.

Cigarette was definetly there in the room, I remember this as I believe I did actually kill him haha, but there was only 2 O-1 in the room and only 3/4 online as the LTCOM at the time and the only other CSG was in a meeting at the time so it was just myself and another LCPL, we didn't act against A-1, we were just told to watch and not do anything unless you shot first. I don't really think it's that deep, just clarifying how there wasn't REALLY an O-1 presence, but this RP was also so far in the past. Just wanted to clarify it anyways

 

[Citadel]

Cigarette was definetly there in the room, I remember this as I believe I did actually kill him haha, but there was only 2 O-1 in the room and only 3/4 online as the LTCOM at the time and the only other CSG was in a meeting at the time so it was just myself and another LCPL, we didn't act against A-1, we were just told to watch and not do anything unless you shot first. I don't really think it's that deep, just clarifying how there wasn't REALLY an O-1 presence, but this RP was also so far in the past. Just wanted to clarify it anyways

Actually I think you’re right, he was there but Scourge was leading it on A-1s end. O-1 definitely did more than watch though, I remember directly reacting to an O-1 taking a firing position against us which put a mindset in us all that something’s gonna happen. Like you said though, it’s not that deep haha I got to shoot a commissioner or 2 on my first day

 

['Clank']

Actually I think you’re right, he was there but Scourge was leading it on A-1s end. O-1 definitely did more than watch though, I remember directly reacting to an O-1 taking a firing position against us which put a mindset in us all that something’s gonna happen. Like you said though, it’s not that deep haha I got to shoot a commissioner or 2 on my first day

Exactly haha, not that deep, got to do my first PK on an A-1 that day- can't speak on the firing position I was just stood in the door way myself waiting to leave lol

 

[Vetkoek]

+Support

I don't think i have had any bad interactions with you in game and ooc, i was special agent when you were DoDEA and Site Advisor when you were SD. You were a solid director in my eyes and you made it fun to play in a department with you as Director, and i think the rest of SA can agree with me on this one.

I was kind of shocked seeing the negative support on this app but everyone has their opinions on him, but i can say that his roleplay is amazing and he is a very kind and friendly person. I would love to see you as an ECM!

 

[doped]

-SUPPORT
*Insert criticism here*​

 

[Solaz]

+Support

Was DPT manager for a short period during same time as me in DEA (if i remember correctly) was always there to help.

Never had a issue with, helpful person and heard was a good NHC too.

 

[Aleem Abdul]

+Support

Will be an ethical committee member.