Denied Give AO enlisted their rights back (overrides to electrical and EOC)

[Sleepino]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
gives the ability for a player who is on a AO operative job full override to electrical and EOC (Excluding lights) currently as it stands enlisted have no access to electrical despite it being an important location for multiple reasons, AO enlisted should be highly trusted members of the foundation do not have access to this and adding onto this members of a elite task force who escort VIPs and need to get to areas they may commonly be in aka the EOC should be granted access to those areas as it currently is enlisted have override to the outer door of EOC but not the inner door making no sense as there is no point in having override to just one door the room between the EOC and EZ serves no purpose other then being a buffer zone for those areas my idea of how this change can work is make so enlisted have overrides to the bottom and control room of both electricals (and maybe having access to lights excluding EOC lights for reasons like if lights need to be turned back on they can just go to the two electricals and switch it on reducing any risk of abuse while still granting ease of access to places and turning on lights like if 079 or CI were to turn them off)

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Unknown most likely not

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
enlisted AO will have ease of access to areas in which they may need to complete their duties in
less hassle when needing to go into areas in which their VIP's may be

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Abuse (unlikely)
Dev time?

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I think the enlisted of a highly trusted and elite task force will likely need access to these area's to properly carry out duties giving them overrides will be vital in them achieving this in a safe and timely matter especially if CL4 members of that task force are not available or ingame to open the areas that they need access to

 

[Texas]

trying to describe AO as elite is moderately incorrect - hell, even resh-1 isn't elite, these are all relatively normal soldiers with specialised duties and responsibilities

Being Best and most loyal operative isn't elite? (Says that in the A-1 file) also this is like saying Delta Force or the SAS are not elite because they are specialized even though they are specialized because of how elite they are

this is untrue - there is no such thing as "half a clearance", nor are AO enlisted and NCO any higher than a CL3 in terms of clearance level. this is an incorrect assumption by most players, including AO themselves, who do not recognise that they are NOT above everybody in the chain of command, simply because they are a task force reporting directly to a foundation command body

On US they are 3.5

 

["Hydra"]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
gives the ability for a player who is on a AO operative job full override to electrical and EOC (Excluding lights) currently as it stands enlisted have no access to electrical despite it being an important location for multiple reasons, AO enlisted should be highly trusted members of the foundation do not have access to this and adding onto this members of a elite task force who escort VIPs and need to get to areas they may commonly be in aka the EOC should be granted access to those areas as it currently is enlisted have override to the outer door of EOC but not the inner door making no sense as there is no point in having override to just one door the room between the EOC and EZ serves no purpose other then being a buffer zone for those areas my idea of how this change can work is make so enlisted have overrides to the bottom and control room of both electricals (and maybe having access to lights excluding EOC lights for reasons like if lights need to be turned back on they can just go to the two electricals and switch it on reducing any risk of abuse while still granting ease of access to places and turning on lights like if 079 or CI were to turn them off)

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Unknown most likely not

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
enlisted AO will have ease of access to areas in which they may need to complete their duties in
less hassle when needing to go into areas in which their VIP's may be

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Abuse (unlikely)
Dev time?

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
I think the enlisted of a highly trusted and elite task force will likely need access to these area's to properly carry out duties giving them overrides will be vital in them achieving this in a safe and timely matter especially if CL4 members of that task force are not available or ingame to open the areas that they need access to

+MAJOR SUPPORT
Doesn't make sense that our overrides got removed or even better yet why enlisted got their CL4 keycards removed which we used to have back in the day...

 

["Hydra"]

+support just give all AO CL4s

+Major Support
Just give Enlisted CL4's back like we used to have back in the day and it would make more sense lorewise also since technically we are CL5 according to lore and we do a lot of stuff that requires us to access CL4 areas and we have more sensitive knowledge than regular cl3's so having CL4 again would greatly help us fulfilling our duties.

 

[Cloudyy]

If someone misuses electrical then COs should smite them down

electrical is whatever, I don't think they need it but whatever, EOC on the other hand.. I'm not too sure if I trust enlisteds as much.

 

[Mirage]

+support just give all AO CL4s

This is a horrible take.

 

[Texas]

This is a horrible take.

w take A1 and O1 ares suppsoed to be high clearance

 

["Hydra"]

w take A1 and O1 ares suppsoed to be high clearance

Agreed it would be way more lore accurate for AO to actually be CL4 included Enlisteds. Cuz if you actually look at official lore we are JR CL5

 

[Tigole]

Half of everything makes no sense on this server dude lol

+support ignore the haters (uk)

 

[Mitski]

-Support

 

[Sceptre]

Being Best and most loyal operative isn't elite? (Says that in the A-1 file) also this is like saying Delta Force or the SAS are not elite because they are specialized even though they are specialized because of how elite they are



On US they are 3.5

You're describing them as elite in a manner to try make them seem infinitely more important than other MTFs which isn't the case. And, no, 3.5 doesn't exist. This was a tern created by players that isn't backed by anything developmentally or in lore.

w take A1 and O1 ares suppsoed to be high clearance

no they aren't

 

[Zen]

You can usually get these sort of changes made by going through IC leadership. Make a request/suggestion to e.g. O5/SA/EC depending on your regiment and how your site works, and if they approve it (sign a doc or whatever saying to make it so), call a sit whenever a Senior Admin+ is on to get it changed.

-Support, though. People should have the access they need, not the access they want - if you need to go in either of these places to escort someone or carry out some operation or whatever, you would likely have someone with you that can open it anyway, e.g. the person you are escorting. Enlisted AO don't need access to EOC on their own - that's for leadership roles like SA/SC/Dpt. leads - and they don't need access to Electrical Centres - that's for Engineers/Tech Experts.

 

[Dennid]

Suggestion Denied​

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Hi @Sleepino,

Thanks for taking the time to make a server suggestion.

The Content Team has chosen to deny your suggestion due to the following reason(s):

We do not believe this is needed, AO enlisted do not need access to these areas. The override is only given to essential areas and both of these areas do not fall under this.​