Rule Suggestion Make surface towers not count part of base again

[Monker]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Makes surface towers not count part of the foundation again like they used to be so it won't be base camp to kill people sitting in towers

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Unsure

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
It used to be this way.
Foundation would roam surface more instead of sitting in surface towers like its deer hunting

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
Foundation will die in towers more outside of raids

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
It is a simple rule change and would make surface more active

 

[YandereMuffin]

Bad idea.

The intent is to strengthen Foundations ability to defend their base, and they should be allowed to reasonably do that.

 

[Steffan]

to be fair, foundation are not only terrible at attacking from their base but also awful at holding it

 

[Pew pew]

- support
as someone who has played SOP stuff for a solid bit the towers are litreally one of the only reasons we are able to do stuff + if anyone shoots at u in towers you may respond by shooting them back its simple war. alongside ci get a huge 360 degree hill that renders most defense implausible if your inside compound.

 

[Jimothy"Hamster"]

ragebait

 

[Average member podidski]

+support

make whole foundation surface base to be allowed to fire in for CI, UNGOC and the parawatch military force.

finally, a needed foundation nerf

 

[Evil]

Bad idea.

The intent is to strengthen Foundations ability to defend their base, and they should be allowed to reasonably do that.

Tell me how this will ruin the foundation's strength to defend their base if their towers don't count towards being in base, and CI/GOC can shoot anyone on the tower regardless of whether MTF shoots or not
Please explain with your SL wisdom

 

["Comet"/Shoobinshurt]

+Support
- Tower isn't even used for anything EXCEPT shooting people and even after they just crouch down or hide behind the tower so you can't see them. Tower often creates a giant issue with crossfire and wrong callouts about people being hostile.

 

[Runic]

+support

 

[Niox]

+/-Support

On one hand this will mean Foundation and CI no longer have long staring competitions with each other for no reason (as it'll encourage them to actually fight), however it gives up some of the control and security that SOP have by being able to sit in the tower, take small shots and pick off CI, and monitor surface.

 

[YandereMuffin]

Tell me how this will ruin the foundation's strength to defend their base if their towers don't count towards being in base, and CI/GOC can shoot anyone on the tower regardless of whether MTF shoots or not
Please explain with your SL wisdom

What are you on about?

MTF can no longer stand in a strong position to guard their base, with the protection of not being instantly shot which gives them more power to aim at and fire at those around them while being safe?

I cannot hate, but this is shrimple my guy.

 

[Evil]

What are you on about?

MTF can no longer stand in a strong position to guard their base, with the protection of not being instantly shot which gives them more power to aim at and fire at those around them while being safe?

I cannot hate, but this is shrimple my guy.

What are you on about?

You can still use the roof of the two buildings to snipe people, that you can easily jump off to avoid being shot and be instantly covered.

If that doesn't work, the garage and the facility itself are strong positions to defend the base.

 

[Pew pew]

What are you on about?

You can still use the roof of the two buildings to snipe people, that you can easily jump off to avoid being shot and be instantly covered.

If that doesn't work, the garage and the facility itself are strong positions to defend the base.

you clearly havent seen the new compound the buildings are way further back then they use to be alongside the 1 piece of cover that can be easily defeated by having 1 ci sit on the back of compound - this is a reply to the ragebait that i replied to.

 

["Comet"/Shoobinshurt]

you clearly havent seen the new compound the buildings are way further back then they use to be alongside the 1 piece of cover that can be easily defeated by having 1 ci sit on the back of compound - this is a reply to the ragebait that i replied to.

Have you considered leaving base to fight CI instead of camping inside then?

 

[YandereMuffin]

What are you on about?

You can still use the roof of the two buildings to snipe people, that you can easily jump off to avoid being shot and be instantly covered.

If that doesn't work, the garage and the facility itself are strong positions to defend the base.

It would still be a reduction in useful area for MTF to use - weakening them.

If it wasn't a problem and wouldn't weaken them (as you seem to state, as they can just "use the roof of the [other] buildings") then why would this change be necessary at all?

Either the watch towers and being able to shoot out of them changes the gameplay (as it does and as I'm saying) meaning that changing it would weaken Foundation, or it doesn't change gameplay and this suggestion would be useless.

 

[Driver]

 

[Cloudblade]

-Support | I don't think this would work out.