Content Suggestion mega CI Overhall

[pricetag]

THIS IS US CI​

What does this suggestion change/add/remove
Give CI T-90 (which is already in the CI vehicle group so idk why its not in the game.) my number 1 pick btw
Ability to get warfunds from destroying Enemy vehicles ( we have 0 ways to get warfunds while F and GOC has infinite) second pick
Buff M202 (Idk why this WARFUND gl got nerfed because its actually useless now, we tell everyone NOT to buy these)
Buff BTR-90 (Give it AP ammo because ts is so ass, its too big ,slow, and low damage)
Buff BTR-82 ( every other vec. has bugged hitboxes (on the front atleast i have proof of the boxer at min) and the engine hitbox is bigger then my mom)
Give us some AT mines ( This would be fire WF item which is what we need not the dogshit that we get like 4 different supply crates of the same thing)
more player slots on jobs (wdym out of 140 player regiment we only have 1 jug)
Give us TIGER M ASG-30 (this is GL vec. it would help all the infantry that GOC and F have during hostile interaction)
New CI job "Mechanic" spawns in garage with only item being gun and a repair torch maybe a better version

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?
probably, mine is different because its actually needed

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
CI isn't outclassed by miles by the other 2 factions.
CI activity doesn't drop because we get shit on, on surface
All of CI can actually help instead of maybe 6 people max


Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
GOC and Foundation might hate on us because we are slightly under them instead of it being an insane outclass

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
why shouldn't this get accepted is the real question, now IK the content might say this is very bad suggestion BUT they don't actually play the game and just test it on stationary moments in GM plain. you have to factor in we have no infantry because he have 0 matadors/at4 24/7 because the people get sniped from 100 meters away or suits.
WE of CI Command arent looking for everything here but atleast a couple to help balance out.

 

[Mike Bright]

Hey buddy how is it a skill issue? The vehicle is CURRENTLY broken????

Unsure what you mean by broken,its really not UK CI have killed marders from the front 'Broken' If you mean by it being OP,id appreciate you not being an idiot and just not ramming a vehicle at a vehicle which is supposed to kill armor

 

[Yoyo]

I have video proof and a DM to the developer saying he will fix it when hes home...

 

[Mike Bright]

I have video proof and a DM to the developer saying he will fix it when hes home...

Fairs then

 

[pricetag]

so complain about the tank being op and then dont use the wf item that counters the tank, Like hello?

bro for the 100th time, WE DONT NEED IT. its a waste i dont know what you dont understand. its useless because we dont need it like what are you reading because im clearly not typing what i think. the m202 is useless WF, because we have matadors, why would i spend 1.2m warfunds when i can get a couple matadors and save the WF? can you give me a real answer???

BTR 90 may be slow as fuck but it is APHE,the BTR 90 and the marder are incomparable,if you LOSE a 1V1 agaisnt a marder as a 90,i have no words for you,the M202s melt vehicles UK CI use them very goodly but if youre too scared to challenge a tank with the WF item that counters it,its a neat and simple skill issue. Also the marder is built to ram vehicles and flip them,don't know why youre complaining about that.

the BTR 90 DOES NOT!!! have APHE, IT HAS ONLY HE!!!. the only acceptable way to lose a 1v1 to a marder is when it rams u and makes ur car stuck at a 90 degree angle (We tested this and you legit cant do anything when your car in pointing towards the moon. the UK use M202 for a reason and we dont fall under that reason so we DONT NEED THE M202 we are fine with regular matys because its a useless WF

Fairs then

js ragebait dawg. reads more then 5 words and ig the rest of the message is invalid

 

[Driver]

m202s are top 3 most useless warfund on us ci, because they actually serve no purpose, the devs told everyone that it is not meant to take out a tank by itself, which is already pretty ass since first off both m202s have to magically hit all their 4 shots, 8 shots combined in the tank, without the tank moving, and in the same armor plate, to actually do this. and now u might say "oh but u have matadors" you also have to take into consideration that infantry is fully active when a tank has surface dom, so you need to focus on infantry, hit ur matador/m202 shots, hope the others with rocket launchers all hit their shots, and dodge the 2 guns the tank has that can shoot thru rocks and hills. it is simply not worth it as most of the times the m202s die to the guy sitting in left tower with a freedom that can see from site 9 to ci base. us ci has 27 million warfunds since the start of this week because we just don't have anything to spend them on, btr90 is bugged and useless 99% of the times, m202s are useless, bomb drones get called every now and then for dc raids, and maybe once per 2-3 days we call in neuro, thats it. why on gods earth do we have the fn40gl. it has not been called in since launch. same with gl ammo, it's more worth to just fight until u die and respawn with ammo than call in a warfund just for gl reloads. we need more warfund options that are actually somewhat useful or FUN, i wouldn't be opposed to some sort of infantry vehicle like nu7 have the stryker, it's really really fun but the downside is that it has no armor, which makes it fair and balanced.

 

[apple]

im saying u dont need m202s BECAUSE you can just use matadors,at4s and a 82 which is just better, so M202 is just a waste

m202s are literally 50x better than the things you have just listed twin

yeah ig when we turn a corner and theres a marder full speed ramming us we should js move faster then the flash. its happened to the UK many times too so you cant even say nun bout that.

there are extremely easy ways to get around this?

m202s are top 3 most useless warfund on us ci,

this is just a complete lie

, the devs told everyone that it is not meant to take out a tank by itself, which is already pretty ass

I do not see how a 1.2 million warfund asset should kill a 2.8 million warfund tank on its own? the m202s are literally made to be used with other items such as 82s, matadors, at4s. The m202 is there to do a large portion of the damage for others to clean up

, and in the same armor plate

if this is regarding the 2nd bullet on the 90 (idk the name of it) then it ignores all armour no matter what

odge the 2 guns the tank has that can shoot thru rocks and hills

it just doesnt do that?

us ci has 27 million warfunds since the start of this week because we just don't have anything to spend them on

if this is the case then i really do not see a point in the suggestion? it appears to me as if you are just not making a effort into finding a way around things. lazy mindset does not help

m202s die to the guy sitting in left tower with a freedom that can see from site 9 to ci base

you really can not see that far from towers? you should really look at a strategy to counter such scenarios, as there is many

m202s are useless

they really are not

hy on gods earth do we have the fn40gl.

i can agree that it is extremely useless and really has no use

same with gl ammo,

gl ammo has extremely good uses

it's more worth to just fight until u die and respawn with ammo than call in a warfund just for gl reloads.

this is not the point in gl ammo twin

somewhat useful

90% of CI warfunds are useful

i wouldn't be opposed to some sort of infantry vehicle like nu7 have the stryker

if CI are to get more vehicles, SOP would need more buffs to make it balanced

If I am being honest, USA CI really do not take a effort in finding ways around anything. I have experienced UK CI visiting USA CI, which they had shown strategies and such that were just never used for some reason? There is a massive gap between UK and USA CI which only comes down to leadership and mindsets

 

["Aki"]

Reading recent replies between USA and UK, I think i should mention this regarding the m202's and matadors

USA Matadors are on a 2-minute cooldown with a two stock, literally if we had this on UK I don't think any tank would survive.
the reason why UK CI calls them is because of how much warfunds we have and because of our matador being 1 stock and a 10 minute cooldown (until recently), which means that we have to sit in base for 30 minutes to get enough matadors to be able to destroy a tank..

We aren't the same and i don't think both sides need to be compared.. especially with how UK CI have been performing recently which is cooked because content is based on both servers, we all know what would happen if UK CI got a tank..


either-way just wanted to add on to this, this is still actively being discussed by content team and some things have been already added. (Bomb drones dealing damage to vehicles)

 

[Driver]

okay there is no point in even trying to talk to you, half of the things i typed u didnt even read, and all u say is "no"
m202s, as i already said, most of the times die to some random sniper, which means we lose 1.2 mil warfunds in less than 5 minutes, also the fact that foundation get 4 sniper jobs and ci gets 2 but thats another balancing issue, makes it pretty damn hard to even get close to the tank, that yes, the turrets can shoot thru rocks and hills, meaning there is no real cover to take while fighting both infantry and the tank, please stop denying stuff u never even tested.

 

[apple]

m202s, as i already said, most of the times die to some random sniper

easy counters can be put in place

foundation get 4 sniper jobs and ci gets 2 but thats another balancing issue, makes it pretty damn hard to even get close to the tank

counters can be put in place yet again

please stop denying stuff u never even tested.

i have tested such things before and i can see that this is a false statement

 

[Driver]

okay, please give me 3 examples of counters to infantry while a tank is out, including energy weapons and snipers, and i would like whenever you guys have a tank, i'm guessing you are an uk player, for you to invite me over and test out the tank turrets.

 

[pricetag]

m202s are literally 50x better than the things you have just listed twin

soo where are you getting this information, and have you been reading what i wrote?

there are extremely easy ways to get around this?

pls let us know then

this is just a complete lie

BTR 90, Large supply crate, and then the M202 top 3 worst WF right now

I do not see how a 1.2 million warfund asset should kill a 2.8 million warfund tank on its own? the m202s are literally made to be used with other items such as 82s, matadors, at4s. The m202 is there to do a large portion of the damage for others to clean up

yeah idk why driver said that its not supposed to solo the tank, but its still dogshit. just read my chats when i said it 100 times before on why that is

if this is regarding the 2nd bullet on the 90 (idk the name of it) then it ignores all armour no matter what

the MG? ... i forgot when we are getting shot by main cannon guns we should just use our mg. what a genius!!!

if this is the case then i really do not see a point in the suggestion? it appears to me as if you are just not making a effort into finding a way around things. lazy mindset does not help

what are we trying to find a way around??? we have so much money but everything is terrible to buy and would just be a waste??? pls explain

it just doesnt do that?

i forgot you know more then the people who actively play on surface. but fr, yes it does shoot through the rocks and some parts of the hills

you really can not see that far from towers? you should really look at a strategy to counter such scenarios, as there is many

someone get Rudy in this suggestion, this guy hops on tower with a triple take and covers half the map. been doing it for years btw.

they really are not

but we explained 100 times, they are. why would i spend 1.2m when i can do it alot faster and quicker while spending 0?? pls explain

i can agree that it is extremely useless and really has no use

im glad we are on the same page about this

gl ammo has extremely good uses

the GL is broken half the time, and has been nerfed right into the ground

this is not the point in gl ammo twin

this is what you replied to "it's more worth to just fight until u die and respawn with ammo than call in a warfund just for gl reloads." The point of GL ammo is so u get ammo, when u die and respawn u get ammo for free...

90% of CI warfunds are useful

which warfunds??? the 5 useless supply crates?? the FN40GL which u already said is ass. or the M202? or the BTR 90?
The only good warfunds are bomb drones for fun, and maybe a neuro to hold with 323 or just having a good scp on a raid.

if CI are to get more vehicles, SOP would need more buffs to make it balanced

yeah this is true. when CI get a vech to match sop, sop need more to surpass. but yeah idk bout the t90 having a tank that can match goc puma or the leo would be way to op for CI.

If I am being honest, USA CI really do not take a effort in finding ways around anything. I have experienced UK CI visiting USA CI, which they had shown strategies and such that were just never used for some reason? There is a massive gap between UK and USA CI which only comes down to leadership and mindsets

what did UK CI do that US doesnt? im genuinely curious on what you saw cuz maybe i wasnt in CI at the time. When i joined UK for like 45 min they had some weird plans that i didn't really see the point to at the same time i have to realize it was only 45 min so there wasnt much to see.
But again what are we trying to find a way around???

Reading recent replies between USA and UK, I think i should mention this regarding the m202's and matadors

USA Matadors are on a 2-minute cooldown with a two stock, literally if we had this on UK I don't think any tank would survive.

yeah the only way tanks survive on US is if it sits in base... then we just MR/DC and destroy it,

because content is based on both servers, we all know what would happen if UK CI got a tank..

we dont know maybe content should give US and UK tanks atleast as a trial for like 2 weeks that would cure my crave for a tank frfr

i have tested such things before and i can see that this is a false statement

What have you tested exactly? can we get some info on this

 

[John Inertia]

This has gotta be one of the shittiest arguments Ive seen, one side presents evidence then the other just completely disregards it and continues ranting

 

[Headbutt]

BTR 90 may be slow as fuck but it is APHE,the BTR 90 and the marder are incomparable,if you LOSE a 1V1 agaisnt a marder as a 90,i have no words for you,the M202s melt vehicles UK CI use them very goodly but if youre too scared to challenge a tank with the WF item that counters it,its a neat and simple skill issue. Also the marder is built to ram vehicles and flip them,don't know why youre complaining about that.

yo mike bright the btr 90 has a broken rocket which is the strongest part of the vehicle and the marder is also built to fight armoured vehicles so it is incredibly strong for the price

 

[WestIshere]

bro for the 100th time, WE DONT NEED IT. its a waste i dont know what you dont understand. its useless because we dont need it like what are you reading because im clearly not typing what i think. the m202 is useless WF, because we have matadors, why would i spend 1.2m warfunds when i can get a couple matadors and save the WF? can you give me a real answer???



the BTR 90 DOES NOT!!! have APHE, IT HAS ONLY HE!!!. the only acceptable way to lose a 1v1 to a marder is when it rams u and makes ur car stuck at a 90 degree angle (We tested this and you legit cant do anything when your car in pointing towards the moon. the UK use M202 for a reason and we dont fall under that reason so we DONT NEED THE M202 we are fine with regular matys because its a useless WF


js ragebait dawg. reads more then 5 words and ig the rest of the message is invalid

Uhm m202s kinda do more dmg than matadors considering its speed and ammo bro… what reason do you possibly have to not use them. I’ll make this blunt I don’t know why you claim “US SOP are OP and undefeatable” when you don’t seem to use your WFs which work amazingly like I don’t know why you think UK is different from US LVS doesn’t have that big of a skill gap and even then the system works the same on both servers. Your m202s alone could bring at least a marder down and a Leo to at least 3k-4k hp. I admit SOP engines are smaller should be fixed. BTR90’s main trump card is broken should be fixed and it can pen as seen in changelogs. But to claim your vehicles are under powered or your WFs are useless because they can’t solo a tank is honestly wild to me. Use your m202s and get matadors and btrs like you’ve already said you do and coordinate with your team. The fact you think just matadors and two btr82s will kill SOP wf vehicles like tank is mind blowing.

As I’ve stated before I may be wrong I’ll admit that but the skill difference in UK and US doesn’t mean tactics aren’t considering it’s LVS not like there’s some undiscovered tactics. But from what I’ve seen you’ve kind of fully dismissed any UK points because you think these issues are only for US for some reason when the add on is the exact same and exact same stats with almost the same tactics. Idk that’s just me yapping though if I’m wrong I’m wrong and it could be proven easy ig ive never used CI vehicles but Yh ur m202s aren’t useless that’s for sure it’s legit extra dmg

Edit: I should say that I do agree with some of the stuff aki says UK SOP skill level is a tad bad compared to the UK CI which costs us a win alot. But I still don't think that if UK points are made they shouldn't be dropped because they "don't fall under the same reasons" At the end of the day I think its mainly skill difference between servers and I still feel the tactics that both sides use are the same. Also if your m202s are getting sniped all the time why not use anima or a cheap chemical like that to get near to a good hiding spot that you believe the tank will pass through on?

 

[pricetag]

Uhm m202s kinda do more dmg than matadors considering its speed and ammo bro… what reason do you possibly have to not use them. I’ll make this blunt I don’t know why you claim “US SOP are OP and undefeatable” when you don’t seem to use your WFs which work amazingly like I don’t know why you think UK is different from US LVS doesn’t have that big of a skill gap and even then the system works the same on both servers. Your m202s alone could bring at least a marder down and a Leo to at least 3k-4k hp. I admit SOP engines are smaller should be fixed. BTR90’s main trump card is broken should be fixed and it can pen as seen in changelogs. But to claim your vehicles are under powered or your WFs are useless because they can’t solo a tank is honestly wild to me. Use your m202s and get matadors and btrs like you’ve already said you do and coordinate with your team. The fact you think just matadors and two btr82s will kill SOP wf vehicles like tank is mind blowing.

As I’ve stated before I may be wrong I’ll admit that but the skill difference in UK and US doesn’t mean tactics aren’t considering it’s LVS not like there’s some undiscovered tactics. But from what I’ve seen you’ve kind of fully dismissed any UK points because you think these issues are only for US for some reason when the add on is the exact same and exact same stats with almost the same tactics. Idk that’s just me yapping though if I’m wrong I’m wrong and it could be proven easy ig ive never used CI vehicles but Yh ur m202s aren’t useless that’s for sure it’s legit extra dmg

i dont think you guys are realizing what im saying but its fine ill say it again... the m202 is useless and never gets called because we dont need it.
what from that sentence is not being understood? am i typing something wrong? maybe i need to word it better please let me know.
ill make this blunt, the m202 is garbage and isnt needed, why is that you make ask? dw ill answer for the 100 time and make it a little easier to understand. Why would i use 1.2m WF to destroy a tank in 5.3 seconds when i can use matadors and destroy it in 5.9 seconds?

For ur second paragraph, there actually IS a hidden method with LVS but it is being used now to its fullest extent. im dismissing any UK points because they are not CI/SOP players there are legit UK CI/SOP in here and i havent dismissed them if anything i agreed. Also all LVS are bugged except CI ones so we take full dmg from anywhere, and the rest dont. an example would be the marder, you have to hit the LeBron 1% shot to dmg it from the front (which is where the SOP would try have facing towards you) and the marder can just run under you in a BTR 90 idk bout the 82, and when the marder has you at a 75 degree angle just call it GG because you cant move.

 

[Dennid]

Overhall

 

[apple]

, please give me 3 examples of counters to infantry while a tank is out,

i would much rather not give ideas to the people i fight against

soo where are you getting this information, and have you been reading what i wrote?

you are saying M202s are useless even though they are one of the most powerful warfund items CI have, you are not using them properly so them being "useless" really comes down to a lack of thought being put in place towards keeping them alive. As I have said before, UK CI have taught USA CI strategies and they have literally been thrown into the dust, this is a forced lazy mindset, why should others suffer over this?

BTR 90, Large supply crate, and then the M202 top 3 worst WF right now

complete lie once again? Are you even using them to the extent they are supposed to?

the MG? ... i forgot when we are getting shot by main cannon guns we should just use our mg. what a genius!!!

I do not understand what this is supposed to say

what are we trying to find a way around??? we have so much money but everything is terrible to buy and would just be a waste??

This really shows to me that there is no effort being put in place by USA CI COs regarding making the regiment more combative and fun. I have visited USA Nu-7 a couple weeks ago, I had called in a tank which USA CI decided to ram a BTR-90 into it and hope for the best, of course the tank won.

the GL is broken half the time, and has been nerfed right into the ground

the GL is one of the most OP weapons I have ever seen, it should not be reverted even the slightest to what it was at the start. It is not broken half the time, there is ways to get around it not exploding.

what did UK CI do that US doesnt? im genuinely curious on what you saw cuz maybe i wasnt in CI at the time. When i joined UK for like 45 min they had some weird plans that i didn't really see the point to at the same time i have to realize it was only 45 min so there wasnt much to see.
But again what are we trying to find a way around???

This proves my point, you are seeing strategies that clearly work but you decide to call them "weird" and not use them. Why does this always happen?

What have you tested exactly? can we get some info on this

The tank just does not shoot through hills and rocks. I have no clue where this even came from?

t the end of the day I think its mainly skill difference between servers

After seeing what is being said here, this is a forced mindset on USA side.

an example would be the marder, you have to hit the LeBron 1% shot to dmg it from the front (which is where the SOP would try have facing towards you)

You can get around this ??

and the marder can just run under you in a BTR 90 idk bout the 82, and when the marder has you at a 75 degree angle just call it GG because you cant move.

You can yet again get around this?

This forced mindset of "we can not win" is not helping you whatsoever.

 

[Driver]

okay i have extracted from this wonderful conversation we just had that you don't have the capacity of arguing a point whatsoever, all you say is no and sometimes you straight up ignore what we say, it is clear you don't have the slightest idea of what you are talking about and you are just putting words together hoping it will form a sentence, you are either ragebaiting or ur genuinely clueless about anything happening

 

[Driver]

also to respond to ur whole yap

m202s are useless on us because we are better off with using matadors, they are way more useful than calling in a 1.2 mil warfund that someone has the same chances of losing as the matador. i really hope you understand what i am saying because i cannot put it in more simpler words for you.

complete lie? is this ur catchphrase? u said the same thing to tank turrets being able to shoot thru rocks and when i asked for an invitation on uk server to test it out together you ignored it, im still open to the idea!! also yes, they are most useless warfunds, btr90 gets wiped by tank and marder in a 1v1, it can only beat the stryker and lav. it is also b u g g e d. m202 i already explained a million times in thread.

you said the second gun on the btr90 ignores all armor, the second gun is the mg (turret!!!!) i'm not very sure but explosions might do more damage than bullets, maybe im wrong! if you did mean the rocket on the btr90, i bring you very good news! they are broken, and have been broken since btr90 has existed. the btr90 has to stand completely still for the rocket to shoot otherwise it will explode inside the btr90 and almost destroy it. if you do manage to shoot the rocket out the btr without blowing yourself up then you got 2 more big obstacles in front of you! 1 of them is the rocket sometimes having its own mind and going over the vehicle you are trying to hit even though you are aiming at the vehicle. and the second obstacle is sometimes the rocket decides to ricochet off the vehicle you are trying to hit because this is a real feature.

i also very much doubt you visited usa nu7 recently and a btr90 rammed into a tank. this might be a complete lie!!!! to my knowledge we didn't call in a btr90 since the last war with goc. and if we did call one in trust me i don't think it would roam when a tank is roaming too, unless it was a random alpha driving. also what are usa ci cos supposed to do to make the regiment more combative and fun. am i supposed to call in m202s for a lav? am i supposed to call in fn40gls to shoot people on surface with it? am i supposed to call in a large package for people to use? i don't get what you want me to call in, the only warfund we've used lately is bomb drones, and that's about it because the rest are not fun or instantly countered by tank.

if u think gl is most op weapons u have never been ci. this is a complete lie!!!!!

it might sound surprising but uk and us ci sometimes work together! they do have different strategies because our server are different, sop is different and even the equipment is different.

again, im still waiting on an invitation on uk for us to test together this

no idea what ur saying here

ok i can get around it but why do i have to hit a 1% shot to even damage the vehicle i'm fighting when they just have to close their eyes and shoot to kill us

please explain to me how i'm supposed to escape a marder that is under me holding me hostage and shooting me. idk if u know but we dont have armor below our btrs, meaning if this happens we are dead, there is no getting around this.

 

[apple]

complete lie? is this ur catchphrase?

I am saying that the statement you are making is not true? Do you want me to phrase it another way?

hen i asked for an invitation on uk server to test it out together you ignored it

I do not want to do this

btr90 gets wiped by tank and marder in a 1v1, it can only beat the stryker and lav.

BTR-90 is not made to 1v1 vehicles? It is made to work with other equipment to destroy vehicles. The BTR-90 is extremely good with no F vehicles there to contest it.

hey are broken

If you position the rockets they will not explode on the 90

of them is the rocket sometimes having its own mind and going over the vehicle you are trying to hit even though you are aiming at the vehicle

This is intentional if I am correct

second obstacle is sometimes the rocket decides to ricochet off the vehicle

Don't aim for the top of vehicles. Bullets do ricochet off vehicles, this is completely normal.

i also very much doubt you visited usa nu7 recently and a btr90 rammed into a tank. this might be a complete lie!!!! t

This happened on 25/07/2026

am i supposed to call in m202s for a lav?

Not really what I am going after. From my experience there is some sort of forced mindset into not using new strategies.

if u think gl is most op weapons u have never been ci. this is a complete lie!!!!!

'think' This is a opinion?

please explain to me how i'm supposed to escape a marder that is under me holding me hostage and shooting me. idk if u know but we dont have armor below our btrs, meaning if this happens we are dead, there is no getting around this.

I have not once said anything regarding finding counters of getting unstuck from being on top of a marder, I am telling you there is ways to get around not getting stuck in the first place.

ok i can get around it but why do i have to hit a 1% shot to even damage the vehicle

Please expand on this