Content Suggestion Make pistol variety more accessible

[Zen]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Currently, the following pistols exist:

Pistol	Type	Jobs Used	Armoury NPC/Perma	Armoury	Gun Dealer	Heavy Gun Dealer	MC&D
.44 Magnum	Revolver/Heavy	Site Director/GOC Commander	No	No	No	No	No
BR9	Standard		No	No	Yes	Yes	No
CZ 75-B	Standard	ISD Commissioner/Director, CI Cartographer/Officer/Commanding Officer/Commander	No	No	No	No	No
CZ75	Standard	DEA Senior Agent/Field Agent/Special Agent/Manager/Director, O-1 Officer/Commander	No	No	Yes	Yes	No
Deagle	Heavy		No	No	Yes	Yes	No
G17.Ethics	Standard/Special	Ethics Member/Chairman	No	No	No	No	No
GSH18	Standard	GSD CPT/Chief, ISD Agent/Operative/Investigator/Inspector	No	No	No	No	No
Glock P80	Standard/Auto	Foundation Cartographer	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
H&K P30L	Standard	DEA Agent/Operative, UN Attaché/Ambassador	No	No	No	No	No
Hailstorm	Revolver/Energy	Hailstorm Salesman	No	No	No	No	Yes
M1911	Standard	Overseer Assistant, Ethics Assistant	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No
M9	Standard	Combat Medic, A-1 Operative/Specialist/Enforcement/Officer/Commander, E-11 Operative/Containment Specialist/Biohazard Specialist/Breacher/Officer/Commander, O-1 Operative/Specialist/Enforcement, CI Operative/Chemist/Deep Cover/R&D/Juggernaut/Medic/Strike Team/Marksman/Type-Blue/Delta Operative	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No
MP443	Standard	Nu-7 Operative/Medic/Specialist/Autorifleman/Marksman/Officer/Commander	Yes	No	Yes	Yes	No
P320	Standard	Site Advisor/Manager,	No	No	No	No	No
Prokolot	Standard		No	No	No	No	No
S&W 659	Standard	GOC Cartographer/Soldier/Juggernaut/Medic/Field Operative/Assessment Team/Marksman/Strike Team/Officer, Ranger	No	No	No	No	No
S&W Model 29	Revolver		No	No	No	No	No
USP	Standard	GSD Cadet/Guard/Officer/SRU Patrol/SGT	No	No	No	No	No
XK-O5	Standard/Special	O5-1/2/3/4	No	No	No	No	No

Some key things here:

• There is no way for anybody to acquire any standard revolver without spawning with it (which is very few roles)
• Out of all these pistols, there are only three perma pistols available, all of which are just standard pistols with no real variation (beyond the fact that only the M1911 can't have a flashlight or laser)
• There is literally no possible way to acquire an S&W Model 29, and you can only acquire the Prokolot as a D-class via the contraband NPC

What I would like to suggest is that there be some more variation in the available pistols, both as permas, and more broadly. What I was thinking was:

• Make the .44 Magnum available via the Heavy Gun Dealer
• Make the S&W Model 29 available either via the Heavy Gun Dealer, or make it a weaker revolver (may need stats change, but currently unused so not really a problem) and make it available as a perma
• Make the Prokolot and maybe one or two of the other standard pistols also available as permas
  • The Prokolot in particular has some skins, as do some of the other pistols, many of which aren't available except via specific jobs or via manually equipping elsewhere, e.g. via a gun dealer or armoury entity

Regardless, my general suggestion is just this:

• Make a greater variety of pistols more generally available, and make regular revolvers actually available at all to players that aren't the GOC Commander and the Site Director

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
Some parts may have, such as making revolvers available via gun dealers or as permas, but this is more broad and less specific. Job loadouts and the like have also changed a lot since those suggestions were made.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):

• Makes normal revolvers actually available to players outside of two jobs, which they currently aren't in any way
• Makes a more varied set of pistols available as permas, which are currently very limited
• Makes the S&W Model 29 actually used at all - it's currently literally impossible to acquire except via staff/GM tools
• More permas, especially more types of permas, will probably make CN more money

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:

• Requires gun balancing consideration from Content Team
  • I've tried to make this as easy as possible - e.g. the Model 29 isn't used at all, so you can use whatever stats you want for it, and others are available already, just not this broadly, e.g. the Prokolot

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Currently, the pistols available are very limited. Most just have whatever they get via their job and then just don't consider anything further, because even if they wanted something more, there's not much available. The best you can get is a deagle. There's no way of getting any revolver which isn't the Hailstorm (which is shit). There's no way of getting anything that doesn't require manually equipping and buying except a very limited selection of three pistols which are basically the same. This is asking for that to just be improved generally.

 

[Sceptre]

model 29 does literally like, 5000 damage - its used in events for executions and whatnot
i dont see any point in this suggestion considering that everybody uses ARs and SMGs nowadays

 

[fyzar]

ci has the m1911 instead of the m9 btw

 

[Zen]

i dont see any point in this suggestion considering that everybody uses ARs and SMGs nowadays

RP. Non-combatives e.g. Executive Researchers may wish to carry around a weapon for self-defence without carrying around e.g. an ARX which doesn't make any fucking sense.

ci has the m1911 instead of the m9 btw

It's possible I may have put one part of the jobs list into the wrong category - I had to manually find and type these from the F4 jobs menu. I'll check on the server later as to which one it should be under, thanks for letting me know.

 

[Julien White]

sorry but... I feel special when I'm the only one able to access the S&W Model 29

 

[Froggo]

+Support
Its not about whether people only use certain guns or not. if that was the case everyone just use one gun, but they don't. I feel like having access to more pistols even if its just for fun should be allowed. I want to feel like solid snake on a DC/AR

Now as for the +Support this is more so for more pistols to be available easier i guess

 

[Niox]

M9 jumpscare

also p sure most CI jobs get the M1911, I know Medic does at least.
+Support

 

[Arthur 'Deadhand']

Massive +support give our revolvers some love

 

[Dark Soldier]

+Support

That good idea

 

[Doug 'TrippleD']

add a weight stat. you can no longer carry around ten battle rifles and five smg's and three snipers at once with the one single pistol too without breaking all the bones in your body and being unable to move

 

[Archangel]

add a weight stat. you can no longer carry around ten battle rifles and five smg's and three snipers at once with the one single pistol too without breaking all the bones in your body and being unable to move