Rule Suggestion Allow Class-D to breach 008

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"Businessman"

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Jan 11, 2023
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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Removes the rule:
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Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+More RP Possibilities for Class-D
+No more RP dictating rule
+Encourages people to play Class-D

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- 4% increase in 008 breaches.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Using rules to protect something from being breached is just a lame way.
 

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Sebastian

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-Support

Let's just allow D-Class to fail RP next, but seriously, why would they intentionally breach something that is clearly perceived as world-ending and dangerous in RP? I can kind of understand breaching like 076 or 912, but 008 is a whole different beast.
 
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this is a extremism suggetion.
also the "definitions" of "extermism" (from wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism):
"Extremism is a complex phenomenon, although its complexity is often hard to see. Most simply, it can be defined as activities (beliefs, attitudes, feelings, actions, strategies) of a character far removed from the ordinary. In conflict settings it manifests as a severe form of conflict engagement. However, the labeling of activities, people, and groups as "extremist", and the defining of what is "ordinary" in any setting is always a subjective and political matter. Thus, we suggest that any discussion of extremism be mindful of the following: Typically, the same extremist act will be viewed by some as just and moral (such as pro-social "freedom fighting"), and by others as unjust and immoral (antisocial "terrorism") depending on the observer's values, politics, moral scope, and the nature of their relationship with the actor. In addition, one's sense of the moral or immoral nature of a given act of extremism (such as Nelson Mandela's use of guerilla war tactics against the South African Government) may change as conditions (leadership, world opinion, crises, historical accounts, etc.) change. Thus, the current and historical context of extremist acts shapes our view of them. Power differences also matter when defining extremism. When in conflict, the activities of members of low power groups tend to be viewed as more extreme than similar activities committed by members of groups advocating the status quo."

if we put your suggetion into the definitions of extermism (which is above), the current status that CN has is "normal" and if this suggetion somehow goes passed, this suggetion will not be extreme because its will be a "normal thing".

Oh hello Mr.Putin.
 
This would need a substantial amount of additional rulings on it to govern when a D-Class could reasonably breach 008, rules which I think stray too far into ruleplay instead of roleplay. D-Class should be allowed to hold it hostage, and negotiate their release or something, and breach it under the circumstance of an MTF attempting to break their laid out rules, like no more then 2 people in the airlock at a time or whatever, similar to breaking out of cuffs.

Overall I dont see much additional RP being added by allowing it, and the extra 008 breaches would be fun, and it would give incentive for D-Class to actually go into HCZ, but with it being rules they cannot breach SCPs at all I dont see this being a reasonable addition. Maybe Site-9?

-Support.