Rule Suggestion Allow Class-D to breach 008

["Businessman"]

What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
Removes the rule:


Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
+More RP Possibilities for Class-D
+No more RP dictating rule
+Encourages people to play Class-D

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
- 4% increase in 008 breaches.

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
Using rules to protect something from being breached is just a lame way.

 

[Average member podidski]

also this is just "Remove Site Command and ISD" all over again. (ISD was Alpha-1 and Omega-1 before the IA rework)

 

[Fexxyzin]

Your math isn't correct to begin with.

currently (Atleast for UK) we typically have 1 008 breach a week. that's 52 breaches a year, that's a self limitation so just to be kind to d-class, I'm gonna assume they do 2 a week. that's 102. That's 27% chance. if I add in CI's breach as well that's a 42% chance on that day there's a 008 breach.

Now say this is USA, where I hear CI are not self limiting themselves. let's be bold and say they do 2 008 breaches a week. That knocks it up to a 56% chance.

I'd spend longer to work out through the actual raid logs what kind of numbers we'd get but it's like 1:30 and I just woke up.

I'd rather not log into a server where it's a50/50 if there's a 008 breach ongoing.

The math is correct, what you assuming is wrong is my guess.
In the UK server we do NOT have 1 SCP-008 breach per week, it's more like 1 breach per 2-3, sometimes 4 weeks (In the last mouth there were 2 008 breaches cause by CI).
In what world do you think that D-Class will breach it twice a week.

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The dev time required to create a system that detects not only for 12 players specifically, but 12 within a vwar regiment and *On* those regimental jobs is insane for that. If you're suggesting it be a rule then you're clearly unaware of how little some players care when in regards to making issues in early morning/Low population when nearly no staff are on or avalible.

I have few knowlagde about coding especially in LUA, but they could create a personalised fuction with all the MTF jobs and check if they'r 12 member. If you want to make it simpler, you can create a system that prevents D-Class from breaching/hacking 008 at certain hours of the day it would be usefull on those mornings wheres there is low population or no staff are available .

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D-class obtaining TE-5's and a single weapon is not difficult, Especially since most d-class will inherantly head straigh to 914 that can facilitate them stronger weapons like PKM's and disguises. You're vastly underestimating a competent D-Class.

Yes, but they still need to go to LHCZ hack they’re way in to the syringes (4 doors, 1 CL.4 Biometric, 2 CL.4 and another one that I’m not sure, and the lift (where the syringes are) CL.5 Biometric) and then hack they’re way out, infect someone and hop they don’t notice or break it in a good place where it can spread. I don’t think that he’s underestimating D-Class, I’m think that you’re overestimating them.

 

[Merrick Travolta]

In what world do you think that D-Class will breach it twice a week.

In a world where people "crashout", Flag onto D-class, Then immediately beeline and hack out two SCP's because they got minorly inconvinced in a video game.

In the UK server we do NOT have 1 SCP-008 breach per week, it's more like 1 breach per 2-3, sometimes 4 weeks (In the last mouth there were 2 008 breaches cause by CI).

I said Typically, Sometimes you don't have 1 for 2 or so weeks. Sometimes you do. But my point is that it's a self imposed limitation. Theoretically (before SL decide to explode you) you could do a 008 breach every day.

I have few knowlagde about coding especially in LUA, but they could create a personalised fuction with all the MTF jobs and check if they'r 12 member. If you want to make it simpler, you can create a system that prevents D-Class from breaching/hacking 008 at certain hours of the day it would be usefull on those mornings wheres there is low population or no staff are available .

Right but dev's need to want to do it. There's likely a reason this isn't hard coded.

Yes, but they still need to go to LHCZ hack they’re way in to the syringes (4 doors, 1 CL.4 Biometric, 2 CL.4 and another one that I’m not sure, and the lift (where the syringes are) CL.5 Biometric) and then hack they’re way out, infect someone and hop they don’t notice or break it in a good place where it can spread. I don’t think that he’s underestimating D-Class, I’m think that you’re overestimating them.

I'm not, I've watched two DC's do this exact hack and not been caught with 10 E-11 on. It's more than possible and Unfortunately a lot of D-class are usually combative junkies who like the "I can kill everyone" pass.