Denied Alpha-1 Commander job weapon change and EBR stat change

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What does this suggestion change/add/remove:
This suggestion has 2 parts to the loadout change (Both have been approved by UK and US A-1)

Commander Mossberg Change
Replace the Mossberg with the MK8 LMG, this is the weapon the Alpha-1 Commander job had before it was swapped out with the Mossberg and is the current secondary weapon given to the Nu-7 and E-11 commander jobs.

EBR Weapon Stat Change
Copy the stats of the QBZ to the EBR then modify it slightly so the EBR isn't just a reskin of the QBZ. An example of how the stats could be modified is by reducing spread slightly and slightly increasing vertical recoil. This would make the EBR a bit harder to use than the QBZ but would reduce some of the RNG of spread.

Has something similar been suggested before? If so, why is your suggestion different?:
I don't believe so.

Possible Positives of the suggestion (At least 2):
  • The EBR is probably the worst rifle A-1 has out of the 3 and it is given to officers, changing it to be a side grade to the QBZ makes it a bit more usable and makes it more familiar to use swapping between specialist and officer jobs.
  • The MK8 LMG is quite low damage compared to other LMGs and is already given out to the other Commander jobs, it allows the job given to 2 people on the server to be a bit more versatile in certain situations.
  • The officer/commander job will be a bit more utilised, a lot of COs (at least on the US server) don't use the job too frequently because they dislike the weapon.

Possible Negatives of the suggestion:
  • None that I can think of

Based on the Positives & Negatives, why should this suggestion be accepted:
The EBR is currently the most disliked weapon A-1 has, copying the QBZ stats onto it and then modifying it slightly allows the EBR to be a balanced weapon on par with a weapon A-1 already has, a lot of weapons already have similar stats too so this wouldn't be that outlandish to have the gun issued to officers be a sidegrade to the one issued to NCOs.

The Mossberg makes no sense for the Commander job to have, it is useless in nearly all situations and it is shared with the CI Commanding Officer job, changing it to the MK8 LMG would allow the A-1 Commander job to have a more consistent with the other MTF Commander jobs (Nu-7 and E-11) as well as allowing the A-1 Commanders to have a more versatile loadout for protecting members of O5 against large groups of enemy combatants and SCPs. It would also make the Mossberg a unique weapon for the CI Commanding Officer job which frankly makes a lot more sense for CI to have compared to A-1.

These suggestions are also proposing a similar loadout to what A-1 used to have, the A-1 Commander/Officer jobs used to have the QBZ and the Commander job had the MK8 so giving the MK8 back and modifying the EBR to be a QBZ side grade is consistent with what the A-1 Commander/Officer jobs have had in the past.
 
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Mars

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+support with officer whitelist having ebr and smoke grenade only it is easy outclassed by every other whitelist except operative

making the ebr a stronger gun could help towards making the whitelist a little more viable
 

Revolutionary

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+Support
- The EBR in its current state is awful, A lot of our UK A-1 don’t even use the Office job as a result of the EBR being the main weapon, A change to the officer loadout needs to happen, Either by modifying the EBR to match that of the QBZ or to replace the EBR entirely, Mossberg on the other hand has never been used by me at all or any other previous COM as the weapon is quite useless and only ever works on really close range as opposed to something like the Spas-12, Swapping out the Mossberg for the LMG would prove quite useful.
 
Dec 14, 2023
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+Support

As an A-1 CO, I briefly played on the Officer job (EBR) before realizing that the Specialist job (QBZ) was far superior.
It's my opinion that the Officer job is currently not worth flagging onto while there are better jobs (like Specialist/Enforcement) you could flag onto with better weaponry and equipment.
 
Aug 13, 2023
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- Quite honestly most of the UK Officers just be either taking out guns from the locker or using their permaweapons just to avoid using the EBR as horrible as it is. Tweaking the EBR or changing it could be a great help as it lowers the need of purchasing a perma weapon or having to replace it with another weapon. Nevertheless, an EBR is not to be favoured to be used because of its stats.
 
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